Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)


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It’s not simply a question of “strategic importance” to us. It’s a question of the right of a free people to govern themselves, and that govt to apply to join any international organisation it wants to.

It’s the right of good people to stand up against bad people.

It's not as simple as that unfortunately. Our policy (and I mean the West) should have been to make Ukraine a neutral country - a buffer between NATO and Russia - and to encourage protection of minority groups (Russians) in Ukraine. That would have kept both us and Russia happy and would likely not have led to this current situation. If we had half a brain (and tbf Trump tried but was drowned out by cries of being a "Russian puppet" etc) we should have tried to turn Russia into a partner of the West in preparation for the big conflict looming on the horizon - with China. Instead we've pushed Russia further into the arms of China.

We've basically led Ukraine up the garden path thinking they were going to just skip into NATO with no consequences whatsoever. As I say, the whole thing is a stupid conflict that could have easily been avoided and worked out to suit everybody for the better.
 
It's not as simple as that unfortunately. Our policy (and I mean the West) should have been to make Ukraine a neutral country - a buffer between NATO and Russia - and to encourage protection of minority groups (Russians) in Ukraine. That would have kept both us and Russia happy and would likely not have led to this current situation. If we had half a brain (and tbf Trump tried but was drowned out by cries of being a "Russian puppet" etc) we should have tried to turn Russia into a partner of the West in preparation for the big conflict looming on the horizon - with China. Instead we've pushed Russia further into the arms of China.

We've basically led Ukraine up the garden path thinking they were going to just skip into NATO with no consequences whatsoever. As I say, the whole thing is a stupid conflict that could have easily been avoided and worked out to suit everybody for the better.
Trump being right again
 
It's not as simple as that unfortunately. Our policy (and I mean the West) should have been to make Ukraine a neutral country - a buffer between NATO and Russia - and to encourage protection of minority groups (Russians) in Ukraine. That would have kept both us and Russia happy and would likely not have led to this current situation. If we had half a brain (and tbf Trump tried but was drowned out by cries of being a "Russian puppet" etc) we should have tried to turn Russia into a partner of the West in preparation for the big conflict looming on the horizon - with China. Instead we've pushed Russia further into the arms of China.

We've basically led Ukraine up the garden path thinking they were going to just skip into NATO with no consequences whatsoever. As I say, the whole thing is a stupid conflict that could have easily been avoided and worked out to suit everybody for the better.

But if Ukraine want to be part of NATO...why can't they be? Who are we to tell Ukraine what to do? Who is any country? Pretty sure you wouldn't stand for the Germans telling us what to do...
 
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