Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)


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The whole reason Ukraine wanted to join NATO is because of the threat of Russian invasion. They do not want to be part of Russia and should be allowed to choose their own future.
It would seem their intentions were honourable.

Looking back at what's happened over the last 5 years or so it does seem a little obvious where this would end up.
 
They'll want to make 110% sure footage from Twitter etc is what it says it is.

I've seen a couple of things on Sky News they say they've verified but by that time the footage has been online for hours.
Yeah within hours there was videos of airshows in daylight used as Russian night time attacks
 
It would seem their intentions were honourable.

Looking back at what's happened over the last 5 years or so it does seem a little obvious where this would end up.
Yeah, they were getting invaded anyway. I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue? That you should just let your neighbour invade and take it?
 
Yep, if it wasn’t for the bairn I’d want us to jump in and help. But poking the bear puts my own bairn in danger.

It’s just horrible, I f***ing hate this shit. Why are Humans such f***ing arseholes man.
Because we don't observe the social poltics of a superior species...or dogs as they are better known.
 
Aye in a utopian world marra but we all know it doesn't work like that - I wonder how JFK would have answered your question in 1962 if you'd broached it re: Cuba joining the Warsaw Pact, any idea??..
Cuba would have the same status now as Puerto Rico - and theres not a damn thing anyone would have done about it

and thats the difference between then and now that you dont seem to grasp

America could do what it wants and no one could stop them - in this situation Russia can try and do what it wants but if enough countries were to say 'no' then they could and would be stopped
 
Aye in a utopian world marra but we all know it doesn't work like that - I wonder how JFK would have answered your question in 1962 if you'd broached it re Cuba joining the Warsaw Pact..
The 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis was about the Soviets siting missiles in Cuba, not 'joining the Warsaw pact'. The clue's in the name. :rolleyes:

Cuba never joined the Warsaw Pact.

A modern equivalent might be the USA siting nuclear missiles in Ukraine, which they clearly didn't even try, but it didn't stop Vlad pissing his pants and breaking international law at the thought of. The yanks don't even have missiles in the Baltic States, Poland or Romania.
 
Awacs, AI, better missile targeting to name a few. All of the major technical advances work towards defence. Basically we are getting near the limits of offensive missile tech, whereas we have been making huge leaps in defensive tech. Iron Dome for example.
I stand corrected then. All developments I wasn't aware of. I just know from personal experience that sea air defences were always one step behind, and it was twitchy bum time when the word incoming was mentioned.
 
Aye in a utopian world marra but we all know it doesn't work like that - I wonder how JFK would have answered your question in 1962 if you'd broached it re: Cuba joining the Warsaw Pact, any idea??..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is up there with the stupidest things ever typed.
 
Yeah, they were getting invaded anyway. I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue? That you should just let your neighbour invade and take it?
I'm not saying that so let's just get that straight once and for all.

However, it does look like somebody in the Ukraine Government has massively misjudged the whole issue and failed to take the required diplomatic position/overtures
 
The 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis was about the Soviets siting missiles in Cuba, not 'joining the Warsaw pact'. The clue's in the name. :rolleyes:

Cuba never joined the Warsaw Pact.

A modern equivalent might be the USA siting nuclear missiles in Ukraine, which they clearly didn't even try, but it didn't stop Vlad pissing his pants and breaking international law at the thought of. The yanks don't even have missiles in the Baltic States, Poland or Romania.

This. Mention of missiles in those states is just a Putin paranoid fallacy.

He's just pissed that Russia is on it's knees & he will die being remembered for that. Those countries faced a choice over last 20 years... Corrupt mafia led poor dysfunctional Russia, or a Europe that has it's problems but is free & safe. They chose & it's wounded him.
 
I'm not saying that so let's just get that straight once and for all.

However, it does look like somebody in the Ukraine Government has massively misjudged the whole issue and failed to take the required diplomatic position/overtures
I’m not sure how you stop someone from taking over your country without defending yourself.
 
I’m not sure how you stop someone from taking over your country without defending yourself.
No mate it’s their fault for wanting to be independent of Russia. They should have allowed Russia to do whatever it liked. Their fault they were invaded iirc.
 
Cuba would have the same status now as Puerto Rico - and theres not a damn thing anyone would have done about it
Puerto Rico with a shed load of nukes aye, and you're telling me nothing could be done? What about Kennedy's blockade and threat of all out nuclear war, was he bluffing, don't you see the parallels now???
 
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