englishman abroad
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The amount Putin apologists on here is just sickening,
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Why shouldn’t any of them be able to join? They’re independent nations and free to do what they like.The 100mile redline that you mention from the lower 48, remind me again how close is Ukraine to the Russian border and even if we discount Ukraine as moot (which it is as he's made sure we don't let them join) tell us how far the newer NATO members you mention are from the Russian border compared to your 100mile redline and then tell me Vlad doesn't have a point, it's as if you're saying he let Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia et al join so why the problem with Ukraine - I'm sorry like but in my book 4 (or more) wrongs don't make a right..
It's a little baffling like.The amount Putin apologists on here is just sickening,
Ignore that one, he's a new log in of someone obviously banned for being an idiot.Why shouldn’t any of them be able to join? They’re independent nations and free to do what they like.
I'm not blaming Ukraine.Blaming Ukraine for being invaded by Russia is a new low even by the standards of this place.
No one said they were.2004 you muppet and the Ukraine is not a member of the EU or NATO in 2022.![]()
Genuine question cos my knowledge of NATO has gone from very little to a little more in a few days, what does it matter if more countries join? Surely that helps with the aim of peace?Russia are ultimately responsible for war, but what the hell were the EU (and NATO) thinking?! These organisations were meant to be about peace, not endless expansion.
Don't feed the trollNo one said they were.
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Must be so scary. Like scary beyond what we can really comprehend.
Who could possibly support Putin when they see stuff like that? f***ing hateful c*nts.That poor f***ing bairn man. Actually not ashamed to say I’m crying at that.
Another reason to double-down on efforts to use things other than gas then
Fuck off.I'm not blaming Ukraine.
But sometimes you need to consider the possibility of enraging your powerful and mildly psychotic neighbour.
Vlad has soldiers to use and weapons to test
Some fuckers on here it would seemWho could possibly support Putin when they see stuff like that? f***ing hateful c*nts.
It seems that Vlad considers the Ukraine joining Nato to be a threat as that would put Nato on his doorstep. To counter this he has invaded the Ukraine which moves his border further west on to Nato's doorstepGenuine question cos my knowledge of NATO has gone from very little to a little more in a few days, what does it matter if more countries join? Surely that helps with the aim of peace?
NATO aren't sending troops across boarders and firing missiles into houses. It's not like by joining NATO Ukraine would suddenly become a big threat is it?
The principle is absolutely correct.but they don't want to be part of it that's the point. As a democratic nation they have the right not to have the closest country keep taking bits off them
Nobody really "supports" Putin outside of the hard core in Russia. The rest of the world just excuses him, looks the other way, or decides it's better to acquiesce than do anything.Who could possibly support Putin when they see stuff like that? f***ing hateful c*nts.
Who could possibly support Putin when they see stuff like that? f***ing hateful c*nts.
Well exactly. Shouldn't make any difference whether NATO is on his doorstep and with him next door countries should have every right to look after themselves.It seems that Vlad considers the Ukraine joining Nato to be a threat as that would put Nato on his doorstep. To counter this he has invaded the Ukraine which moves his border further west on to Nato's doorstep
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The whole reason Ukraine wanted to join NATO is because of the threat of Russian invasion. They do not want to be part of Russia and should be allowed to choose their own future.I'm not blaming Ukraine.
But sometimes you need to consider the possibility of enraging your powerful and mildly psychotic neighbour.
Vlad has soldiers to use and weapons to test