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Roy Keane

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Plank said:
What a f***ing boost this would be to absolutely everybody involved with the club man. The entire squad should be buzzing, playing alongside Defoe and potentially for Roy Keane.

Come on
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Spot on, anyone of these youngsters who wants to make it should take note of everything from him
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Emperors New Clothes would be Lee Johnson. Talk of reputation of youth development, fast paced football, philosophies etc. having achieved nowt in the game.

Keane came here first time with no experience, took us from bottom of the league to promotion in the same season and kept us up. I don’t think anyone thinks he was perfect last time or that this doesn’t come without it’s issues.

But it’s Roy Keane. A massive name in the game. He’s achieved success here before. He’s not afraid of expectation or ambition. A lot of the time he was here it felt very good. I, and most others, think this is as exciting an appointment as is imaginable at this level of football.
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this.
 
Steve F said:
I would be misleading you if I said I knew for certain that he will accept. As you will know he has a role with Sky but I do think the offer of the job till the end of the season makes sense for him and the club. If he accepts the job and it’s just my view that I think he will and we are promoted he will almost certainly be offered a long term contract
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Thanks mate. Class your being honest and not cryptic or trying to bend the truth.

Great addition to the board, much like the few who do get genuine info. Hopefully your hunch is correct and he accepts.
 
Two million voices said:
So you didn’t enjoy his time here?
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First season was class but when he left and players celebrated and the story's of what went on I think we should say thanks but no thanks , it's a coaching role not a managers role
Think we are going in right direction , the ex manager had flaws , some major but these quick fixes bite you in the backside in the longterm
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Very nervous about this.

It's a bit different to the Defoe move, which made total sense and was a high reward, low risk kind of play anyway. And I'm a bit concerned by the combination of them both - this is the kind of crowd-pleasing populism that typically blew up in our face under the previous shitbag owners.

But these owners have to this point run us much more professionally. I would hope that this means Keane is buying into the model. I would hope it shows that despite his worryingly basic pundity on ITV, he has convinced them that he has sharp ideas about the game. I actually there is a marriage here where a DoF model can protect him from the boardroom bullshit that drove him insane last time here and let him focus on being Keane. I would think he has had to convince Speakman and KLD he is buying in to this and I think he is so desperate to get back into the game - and harbours genuinely deep affection towards us - that he may just even believe it himself.

But idk. He was not a training ground coach when he was here before, he was a manager. That's fine, but it's not our model. And whilst he is absolutely the best manager we've had since Reidy in my eyes, I'm more sold on the Speakman/KLD model than I am that Roy is right for us now.

Maybe as some OPs point out - this is all just neurosis at this level, maybe all we need from him is the lift, the charisma, the belief to get us out of this shithole. If it blows up in the Championship, frankly who gives a fuck. But really wouldn't want it to blow up this year and tarnish the amazing memories of what it was like when he was last here. So I'm pretty nervous, tbh.
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My feelings exactly. It's not a great feeling when you're hoping your new manager surprises you with his tactical knowledge and man management skills.

The one thing I'm hoping it might do is ease the constant pressure we've been under since we came down. With every other manager, we were a four game winless run away from people calling for a change. At least with Keane, he'll get the unwavering support of the fanbase until the end of the season, so even if it does go wrong, it won't hopefully be quite as toxic as in the past.

Still a bit surreal to think about it now, it's just the complete opposite of where we seemed to be heading as a club. I didn't even think it was realistic a few hours ago.
 
barts45 said:
Why a new thread

Desp for likes
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SAFCftm1986 said:
Why do some people think their opinion is so much more important than others that they ignore the thread with thousands of comments and create their own. Knobs
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Maybe because the original thread may not have had all the same concerns covered or in one post. Couldn’t be arsed to read through 100s of posts. Haven’t got time. Couldn’t give a fuck about likes, I’m not 12!
 
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KEV_SAFC_FTM said:
Firstly, can I say I’d be happy If Keane does take over. He done a good job here in his first spell and raised the club’s profile. He would give everyone a massive boost but there’s certainly a few reservations this time.

How will he cope with managing poorer players? His standards were huge as a player and as a manager. He was used to managing Premier League players. No disrespect to the players here now, but our team is made up of championship/league one players who aren’t as skilful.

He’s been out of a job for a decade and his last managerial roles have hardly been a success. Will he be out of touch? Will his non-nonsense approach with players be accepted in the dressing room nowadays?

Will he commit and put everything into the job? Rumours of him being away from the training ground during the week in the latter stages of his reign and his reluctance to move here permanently did not help him at boardroom level or with the players (disclaimer. Not sure if this was true, but there was definitely rumours at the time).

Does he know the league? He’s a premier league panellist but I doubt that he knows much about league one, if at all. Will he have the feintest idea about teams like Wimbledon and Cheltenham?

How will he work with the off field hierarchy? His relationship with Short was rumoured to be strained. What will it be like with Kyril? How will he work with Speakman over transfers? Will he expect a war chest?

Obviously a lot of these questions can’t be answered and time will tell but there’s a lot of doubt in his appointment and there’s no guarantees that he will be as successful this time. Then again, there’s no guarantee any manager will be.
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They are all very fair points. I guess that is what the recruitment process is about. If they do meet him, which is just paper talk at the moment, they have to be brave enough to turn him down if any of the above fears are confirmed. For me I don't think Keane is daft and he will ask himself many of those questions. He wouldn't come here to fail. That said there are definite risks.
 
Adamfsafc said:
We used to laugh at the mags over their Keegan and Shearer obsession. We are going the same over Keane and Defoe. We just lost 6-0 and it’s seems forgotten over a couple of big names.

I like Defoe but can’t stand Keane. Some of the things he’s said and done over the years are appalling. We will become Ireland reserves again and that won’t get us where we want to be.
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If he gets us out of this league I very much doubt he will sign just Irish players especially as its not the coach that signs them.
 
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