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Quality of the Premier League

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Apart from the top 4-5 teams I've lost interest in the Premier League. I remember the days when I would always.be down the pub on a Sunday to watch the "bug game" no matter who was playing. Now I have no interest at all in Villa Vs West Ham.
 

Its been on the slide for years, still criminal that we managed to get relegated considering we had the best GK outside the top 4 and a 20 goal a season striker.
 
I don’t enjoy watching PL football as much as I used to. VAR had a big hand in that. Yes it gets things right, but do I really give a fuck whether Norwich, Man U, Liverpool, least of all the scum get a decision they otherwise wouldn’t have had? Not at all. Rubbish seeing good goals chalked off for marginal calls as a neutral.
 
SingaporeSteve said:
Plenty of quality there is just too much pressure. Every single point is worth @£3 million quid.
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That's not correct. Man City didn't get £300m for getting 100 points.

The prize money is allocated per place.
Approximately 2 million quid to 20th place, 4 million to 19th, 6 million to 18th and so on.

Last season Man City got 38 million for winning it, added in with their equal share of the prize pot and then facility fees (number of times they're broadcast live) they ended up with 153 million.

The bottom team, Sheffield United came away with 96 million.

All clubs get 38 million equal share and then 5 million commercial revenue. The rest is made up of their share of broadcast fees and place money.
hodge1973 said:
Its been on the slide for years, still criminal that we managed to get relegated considering we had the best GK outside the top 4 and a 20 goal a season striker.
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People have been saying football isn't as good as it used to be for years.
Probably just a result of getting older and enjoying it more when yoi were younger. People get jaded.
Youngsters these days in 20 years will say football isn't what it used to be. Same as music. Everybody always thinks their coming of age era was the peak of music.
 
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What A Waster said:
That's not correct. Man City didn't get £300m for getting 100 points.

The prize money is allocated per place.
Approximately 2 million quid to 20th place, 4 million to 19th, 6 million to 18th and so on.

Last season Man City got 38 million for winning it, added in with their equal share of the prize pot and then facility fees (number of times they're broadcast live) they ended up with 153 million.

The bottom team, Sheffield United came away with 96 million.

All clubs get 38 million equal share and then 5 million commercial revenue. The rest is made up of their share of broadcast fees and place money.

People have been saying football isn't as good as it used to be for years.
Probably just a result of getting older and enjoying it more when yoi were younger. People get jaded.
Youngsters these days in 20 years will say football isn't what it used to be. Same as music. Everybody always thinks their coming of age era was the peak of music.
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An absolutely spot on post …. musically anything from 67-83’ is great, anything after gets poorer, up to not having a clue this Century.
 
Safc98 said:
Liverpool and City beat everyone. The gap between the PL and Championship has never been bigger. They’ll push for a 16-18 team Premier League soon with U23s in the pyramid
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This. Its huge. Games against city and Liverpool almost becoming pointless for the bulk of matches. Bit like the SPL when the old firm play anyone else. 7 games left and good chance Liverpool, who are 2 points off top, could win every game and still fail to win the league. That'd just utter shite.

And there's no sign of things changing for the better with what you suggest very likely to happen at some point. I just find the PL dull as a competition these days.
 
Unlucky Black Cat said:
No different to previous years?

This season there is every chance that 31 or 32 points will be enough to stay up.

Contrast that with us being the first team to go down on 40 points (under Peter Reid).

But aye, it's no different...
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You'll have to revise your points prediction. Gonna be nearer to 40 than 31. No different to other years.
 
Darlo1973 said:
Apart from the top 4-5 teams I've lost interest in the Premier League. I remember the days when I would always.be down the pub on a Sunday to watch the "bug game" no matter who was playing. Now I have no interest at all in Villa Vs West Ham.
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Cockroach united vs Beetle fc.??
 
Quality and entertainment are two very different things.

I've watched a fair bit of amateur football over the last few years, and as a neutral fan, it's generally more entertaining than the premiership. There's more fight, more incident, more controversy and some good football as well.

But obviously the quality isn't there that's in the Premier league.

If you want to watch good technical football, the standard in the Premier league is canny. If you want entertainment you'll be disappointed more often than not
 
I think the quality its unbelievably high myself.
I think quality of Championship is even more surprising as a 2nd tier as well.
 
I agree with the poster who said that technically the football/players are top class but it doesnt always make for great entertainment. 90% of sides are playing possession based football. Get two of them on the same pitch and it can become very cat and mouse. It has become an almost non contact sport with players 'winning' free kicks so it has become very difficult for teams to win the ball back from teams full of technically gifted players who are also adept at drawing 'fouls'. Man City - who are seen as a blueprint for success - are the classic example. Grealish, Sterling, Mahrez and Gabriel Jesus are wonderful technical footballers but they are also all quick to hit the deck. I could think of very few things less appealing than a season ticket at The Etihad. At times watching PL football can be like watching a game of chess, which never really took off as a spectator sport.
 
jsdftm04 said:
Aye, course there will be games. But it's mot very often is it? You've got Liverpool and City getting 99 and 100 points each one season iirc.

Just feels like it's massively in decline. The big games still get you into it but there's so much dross like.
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I reckon about 70% of the games are boring. It's not just me, i've heard another couple of people I know say the same, switching off or turning over.
jsdftm04 said:
Absolutely on its arse isn't it?

I remember when we were in there and I could watch two random bottom half sides on sky and it was decent. These days it's never a decent game, quality is on the floor and boring.

Most competitive league in the world, probably aye. But there's much better entertainment in numerous European leagues.
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I know it will not happen but the football league as a whole needs salary caps of some sort. As we all know titles and success are bought and the supporters don't matter, they are only there to provide some atmosphere. That's why the top teams have so many points, they are just in a different league, so to speak, from the rest of the division. Sometimes they turn up and have a training session and still win. They just pass the ball around in a slow motion way and then provide a few minutes of class to win the game, no wonder it's boring. To be honest, I can't understand why people part with so much money to watch it.
 
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sympathiser said:
I agree with the poster who said that technically the football/players are top class but it doesnt always make for great entertainment. 90% of sides are playing possession based football. Get two of them on the same pitch and it can become very cat and mouse. It has become an almost non contact sport with players 'winning' free kicks so it has become very difficult for teams to win the ball back from teams full of technically gifted players who are also adept at drawing 'fouls'. Man City - who are seen as a blueprint for success - are the classic example. Grealish, Sterling, Mahrez and Gabriel Jesus are wonderful technical footballers but they are also all quick to hit the deck. I could think of very few things less appealing than a season ticket at The Etihad. At times watching PL football can be like watching a game of chess, which never really took off as a spectator sport.
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Fed up with this 'winning' free kicks. The 'fouled' player is already on his tippy toes ready for a dramatic collapse as his knees suddenly give way almost before the opposition player gets near him. Happens in L1 games too. (Except for Stewart who isn't given a free kick even when being strangled)
 
STHLM said:
Fed up with this 'winning' free kicks. The 'fouled' player is already on his tippy toes ready for a dramatic collapse as his knees suddenly give way almost before the opposition player gets near him. Happens in L1 games too. (Except for Stewart who isn't given a free kick even when being strangled)
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100% agree. The rules and the way they are applied have totally changed the game. Players know they get free kicks for the slightest little thing and they exploit it. They try to draw fouls and yellow cards which are given now for next to nothing. It has completely changed the way the game is played.

Agree 100% about it creeping into lower divisions too. You get fans of league one clubs now claiming the moral high ground because they play 'good football' which apparently equals playing out from the back, keeping the ball (even if they go nowhere with it) and begging for free kicks.
 
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