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legend7 said:
So you would agree that the distances travelled many times should be reasonably accurate?
For instance have you been to Lledrod in Wales, if not and you were going to go I'm assuming you'd trust the distance on other maps people have produced
Also if you don't think the distances are correct or you claim not to know them because you haven't travelled them yourself how do you know your layout?
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I accept distances, generally.
What A Waster said:
If I didn't believe something, I'd be looking for ways to disprove it instead of just making up an alternative and then denying reality.
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That's why I disproved it.
What A Waster said:
If I claimed to be searching for an alternative by doing simple experiments, I'd also do simple experiments to disprove what I didn't believe.
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Yep, I also did that.
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Either way you're gonna find out one way or the other.
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Yep, and I have.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
No distances work on a globe because we do not live on a globe and you do not and can not prove we do. It's as simple as that to be fair.
Any distances are simply the distances over the terrain or a level water mass or over water and land by air or by uneven land by foot or vehicle, not a convex terrain and certainly, absolutely not over a globe.
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Well then tell me a single distance marked on a globe that doesn't match the scale and I will verify that claim.

So if I take a standard classroom globe, work out the scale and measure the length of the UK, will that be different to what we know as the length of the UK and is well traveled?
Nukehasslefan said:
No, I didn't.
You offered a diagram for angles and I went with it. Not for a globe, just for an angle to a point of light.
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Ok fair enough, we can come back to that when I have a side by side comparison with an alternate earth.
 
What A Waster said:
There's no one proof fits all with your water level comfort blanket.

As DaveH showed earlier you'd need 452m long spirit level to detect a 4mm curve.
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Sssh, he was letting that one slip because it really goes against what he believes.

Though if he did reply to it, the response would have been selected from:
- I'm going to dismiss this and not say why. Perhaps claiming my calculations are wrong but not saying where or putting up an alternative
- Calling it magic maths and it being a nice story but doesn't work in practice, without saying why
- Putting my maths down to a global mindset and leaving it at that
- Claiming I got the formula from someone else as an appeal to authority (I didn't)
- Asking me to calculate the exact same thing again and explain the exact same thing again
- Picking an obscure conclusion that it doesn't prove and then dismiss the whole thing. E.g. so you say that is a 4mm drop, but that doesn't prove the earth magically orbits the sun over the course of a year.

None of it would actually point to the fact that what I suggested is the scale that you need for his single experiment to work and there is no valid denial on that one.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I accept distances, generally.

That's why I disproved it.

Yep, I also did that.

Yep, and I have.
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But you haven't disproved it - you have repeatedly said on here you have no proof and this is simply your musings. What is your proof the world is not a globe - and before you rattle out water level have a look at @DaveH posting earlier.
 
DaveH said:
Sssh, he was letting that one slip because it really goes against what he believes.

Though if he did reply to it, the response would have been selected from:
- I'm going to dismiss this and not say why. Perhaps claiming my calculations are wrong but not saying where or putting up an alternative
- Calling it magic maths and it being a nice story but doesn't work in practice, without saying why
- Putting my maths down to a global mindset and leaving it at that
- Claiming I got the formula from someone else as an appeal to authority (I didn't)
- Asking me to calculate the exact same thing again and explain the exact same thing again
- Picking an obscure conclusion that it doesn't prove and then dismiss the whole thing. E.g. so you say that is a 4mm drop, but that doesn't prove the earth magically orbits the sun over the course of a year.

None of it would actually point to the fact that what I suggested is the scale that you need for his single experiment to work and there is no valid denial on that one.
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Spot on. We know how it goes now
 
DaveH said:
Well then tell me a single distance marked on a globe that doesn't match the scale and I will verify that claim.
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Show me distances on a globe.
DaveH said:
So if I take a standard classroom globe, work out the scale and measure the length of the UK, will that be different to what we know as the length of the UK and is well traveled?
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You can scale anything to fit.
What A Waster said:
There's no one proof fits all with your water level comfort blanket.

As DaveH showed earlier you'd need 452m long spirit level to detect a 4mm curve.
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You don't need a spirit level of any size. Spirit levels show level but there's a whole host of stuff including scopes and crosshairs/theodolites and so on and so on that proves we do not live on any globe.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Shoe me distances on a globe.

You can scale anything to fit.


You don't need a spirit level of any size. Spirit levels show level but there's a whole host of stuff including scopes and cri=osshairs/theodolites and so on and so on that proves we do not live on any globe.
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@DaveH you were right
 
taipeisafc said:
But you haven't disproved it - you have repeatedly said on here you have no proof and this is simply your musings. What is your proof the world is not a globe - and before you rattle out water level have a look at @DaveH posting earlier.
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I'll say it again. I have no direct proof for my musings for my Earth but I have absolute proof it's not a globe we live upon.
Simple enough.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Show me distances on a globe.

You can scale anything to fit.


You don't need a spirit level of any size. Spirit levels show level but there's a whole host of stuff including scopes and crosshairs/theodolites and so on and so on that proves we do not live on any globe.
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How does a theodolite show we don't live on a globe?
 
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