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Put a flat earthier into space


payne said:
It's 60 years later and the amount of lies they've had to fabricate over the 6 decades takes up a lot of space on hard drives and files. They are probably using them to get rid of the data in a quick way straight into the drink.
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60 years and they went backward for long enough before they started to add in ridiculous extras in the name of other made-up companies run by super billionaires.
I have to admire the genius of what they come up with and also how they can manipulate the populace with utter gobbledygook. In my opinion of course.
 
Nobby said:
That's called sucking FFS
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At face value, it appears that way only because of how we go about thinking on those lines.

The reality is there is no sucking, it's all push against the least resistance to that push.
Reid against Mcshane said:
It makes you wonder why my Mam drove a Hillman Imp instead of the Audi she has now
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And yet we're basically told to accept we went back to the Hillman Imp from the Audi, once again.
DaveH said:
Can I just check something, because we had this daft carry on with volume, mass and density. In the end it turned out that you invented your own terms for all those words and just changed language because you didn’t like the original.

Is this what you are doing here and the argument is not it is push or pull, the argument is people are agreeing it is an English pull but a nuke-push, where push means something slightly different in your language?
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It depends on how someone sees what push or pull or suction means to them.

Explain how you think you can evacuate a bell jar of some of the atmosphere/gas/air within it.
We know you require a pump but what do you think the pump does?

Do you think the pump just sucks out the internal atmosphere and throws it into the external atmosphere or do you think the pump pushes against the external atmosphere which allows the internal atmosphere to decompress within itself to push out by its own expansion of matter inside?

It's all key in how we can easily be manipulated with a lot of stuff. Basically, two sides to every story, or maybe more depending on the story told.

This is why push and pull need to be evaluated in terms of understanding what's really going on with explanations as to whether we are told the truth or a mixture of truths and lies or basically lies by misinformation/disinformation.
 
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legend7 said:
So explain the fundamental difference between something being pushed from a higher pressure area to a lower or something being pulled into a lower pressure area from a higher?
With provable facts not gibberish
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Push against resistance to push. That's basically it.
No pulling is involved except how people are coaxed into perceiving it. IMO.

The straw in a glass is a prime example.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
At face value, it appears that way only because of how we go about thinking on those lines.

The reality is there is no sucking, it's all push against the least resistance to that push.

And yet we're basically told to accept we went back to the Hillman Imp from the Audi, once again.

It depends on how someone sees what push or pull or suction means to them.

Explain how you think you can evacuate a bell jar of some of the atmosphere/gas/air within it.
We know you require a pump but what do you think the pump does?

Do you think the pump just sucks out the internal atmosphere and throws it into the external atmosphere or do you think the pump pushes against the external atmosphere which allows the internal atmosphere to decompress within itself to push out by its own expansion of matter inside?

It's all key in how we can easily be manipulated with a lot of stuff. Basically, two sides to every story, or maybe more depending on the story told.

This is why push and pull need to be evaluated in terms of understanding what's really going on with explanations as to whether we are told the truth or a mixture of truths and lies or basically lies by misinformation/disinformation.
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good old word salad once again in what you are offering on world we walk/sail upon.
Nukehasslefan said:
60 years and they went backward for long enough before they started to add in ridiculous extras in the name of other made-up companies run by super billionaires.
I have to admire the genius of what they come up with and also how they can manipulate the populace with utter gobbledygook. In my opinion of course.
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you are one paranoid individual
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Push against resistance to push. That's basically it.
No pulling is involved except how people are coaxed into perceiving it. IMO.

The straw in a glass is a prime example.
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No but prove or show how pull or suction doesn't exist.
With actual science not just random words.
I can say pull definitely exists because bananas are yellow but it means nothing.
Like what you've just said
 
chelt_mackem said:
So now without the word salad, why does the loco pulling the couplings attached to the train thereby pulling along the track mean it's actually being pushed?
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Take a look at the couplings and look how they actually work. Also, look at how the loco works and the wheels, and so on.
I'll go through the lot if you offer a diagram. I'll actually mark it all down if you put a diagram up.

You can offer as many things as you want to aside from a loco if you feel the need.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Take a look at the couplings and look how they actually work. Also, look at how the loco works and the wheels, and so on.
I'll go through the lot if you offer a diagram. I'll actually mark it all down if you put a diagram up.

You can offer as many things as you want to aside from a loco if you feel the need.
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No, the burden of proof is with you as you are the one challenging the accepted science.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
At face value, it appears that way only because of how we go about thinking on those lines.

The reality is there is no sucking, it's all push against the least resistance to that push.

And yet we're basically told to accept we went back to the Hillman Imp from the Audi, once again.

It depends on how someone sees what push or pull or suction means to them.

Explain how you think you can evacuate a bell jar of some of the atmosphere/gas/air within it.
We know you require a pump but what do you think the pump does?

Do you think the pump just sucks out the internal atmosphere and throws it into the external atmosphere or do you think the pump pushes against the external atmosphere which allows the internal atmosphere to decompress within itself to push out by its own expansion of matter inside?

It's all key in how we can easily be manipulated with a lot of stuff. Basically, two sides to every story, or maybe more depending on the story told.

This is why push and pull need to be evaluated in terms of understanding what's really going on with explanations as to whether we are told the truth or a mixture of truths and lies or basically lies by misinformation/disinformation.
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Wrong.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Take a look at the couplings and look how they actually work. Also, look at how the loco works and the wheels, and so on.
I'll go through the lot if you offer a diagram. I'll actually mark it all down if you put a diagram up.

You can offer as many things as you want to aside from a loco if you feel the need.
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So about these superfluid experiments you keep avoiding .....
 
DaveH said:
:) we are thinking along same lines. My next question was going to be if the couplings were under tension or compression.
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Tension is just a thinning out by compression. It's all a squeeze and the reaction of that squeeze is compression caused by a push against resistance to push.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Push against resistance to push. That's basically it.
No pulling is involved except how people are coaxed into perceiving it. IMO.

The straw in a glass is a prime example.
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Wrong.
Nukehasslefan said:
Take a look at the couplings and look how they actually work. Also, look at how the loco works and the wheels, and so on.
I'll go through the lot if you offer a diagram. I'll actually mark it all down if you put a diagram up.

You can offer as many things as you want to aside from a loco if you feel the need.
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You're the one that wants to prove it with a diagram, so YOU should draw one.
 
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@Nukehasslefan please advise how one of the main pillars of material science is fundamentally flawed.
 
It's saying how one can learn new stuff each day. To think for 36 years I've actually believed there's a thing called pull. What a moron I've been.
Kevj said:
Here is a video of a tensile strength test for steel rebar.

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@Nukehasslefan please advise how one of the main pillars of material science is fundamentally flawed.
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This does not go against when I'm saying if you realise what I'm offering and look deeper.
 
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