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[taipeisafc]

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@Nukehasslefan please advise how one of the main pillars of material science is fundamentally flawed.

I feel like pointing out i have done these tests (on carbon fibre) so can categorically state they are exactly as described by @Kevj

 

[fyl2u]

Here is a video of a tensile strength test for steel rebar.

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@Nukehasslefan please advise how one of the main pillars of material science is fundamentally flawed.

I feel like pointing out i have done these tests (on carbon fibre) so can categorically state they are exactly as described by @Kevj

Haway lads, Modulus? Really?

He's never going to fall for arguing against Star Trek aliens.

 

[Kevj]

I feel like pointing out i have done these tests (on carbon fibre) so can categorically state they are exactly as described by @Kevj

Unbelievable initial strength. Then immediate, catastrophic failure.

 

[Nobby]

I feel like pointing out i have done these tests (on carbon fibre) so can categorically state they are exactly as described by @Kevj

That's just because you were schooled to get those results

 

[Kevj]

Haway lads, Modulus? Really?

He's never going to fall for arguing against Star Trek aliens.

I’m waiting for him to explain that all that pushing makes the sample get longer and why the test equipment visually gets further apart.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

No but prove or show how pull or suction doesn't exist. With actual science not just random words.

You'll have to decide what you want to do with what's said.

I can say pull definitely exists because bananas are yellow but it means nothing.
Like what you've just said

You are free to think and say what you wish, as you mention.

No, the burden of proof is with you as you are the one challenging the accepted science.

There's no burden on me for anything. You take what you want to take from whatever story is handed out whether it's from what you deem as official or authority or random. It's your choice.

Here is a video of a tensile strength test for steel rebar.

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Here is a typical yield strength plot graph which identifies the elastic and plastic phases on most materials.

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@Nukehasslefan please advise how one of the main pillars of material science is fundamentally flawed.

The bar is pushed apart.

 

[taipeisafc]

Unbelievable initial strength. Then immediate, catastrophic failure.

Exactly did some similar tests with carbon fibre wrapped gas cylinders was a little disappointing when the failure were cracks and jets of water rather then hollywood explosions.

 

[legend7]

The bar is pushed apart.

 

[chelt_mackem]

You'll have to decide what you want to do with what's said.



You are free to think and say what you wish, as you mention.

There's no burden on me for anything. You take what you want to take from whatever story is handed out whether it's from what you deem as official or authority or random. It's your choice.

The bar is pushed apart.

No, you said you could demonstrate the push, so do so or you prove yourself a liar.

 

[DaveH]

Why don't YOU bring all the component parts up in a diagram to happily show us it's all pushing?

Playbook: Do some homework for me

At face value, it appears that way only because of how we go about thinking on those lines.

The reality is there is no sucking, it's all push against the least resistance to that push.

And yet we're basically told to accept we went back to the Hillman Imp from the Audi, once again.

It depends on how someone sees what push or pull or suction means to them.

Explain how you think you can evacuate a bell jar of some of the atmosphere/gas/air within it.
We know you require a pump but what do you think the pump does?

Do you think the pump just sucks out the internal atmosphere and throws it into the external atmosphere or do you think the pump pushes against the external atmosphere which allows the internal atmosphere to decompress within itself to push out by its own expansion of matter inside?

It's all key in how we can easily be manipulated with a lot of stuff. Basically, two sides to every story, or maybe more depending on the story told.

This is why push and pull need to be evaluated in terms of understanding what's really going on with explanations as to whether we are told the truth or a mixture of truths and lies or basically lies by misinformation/disinformation.

Can you prove that what you are saying is true and the mainstream view is not?

 

[Kevj]

Exactly did some similar tests with carbon fibre wrapped gas cylinders was a little disappointing when the failure were cracks and jets of water rather then hollywood explosions.

I’ve, from a personal interest, watched destructive tests on carbon fibre bike frames compared to alloy equivalent. The plastic deformation for aluminium is visible, whereas the carbon fibre was hugely stronger with little to no deformation, then snap!

Interesting that on gas cylinders that that failure mode is discrete fractures and not catastrophic.

The bar is pushed apart.

Elaborate further.

 

[DaveH]

You'll have to decide what you want to do with what's said.



You are free to think and say what you wish, as you mention.

There's no burden on me for anything. You take what you want to take from whatever story is handed out whether it's from what you deem as official or authority or random. It's your choice.

The bar is pushed apart.

Force is a vector, is has a magnitude and a direction. The direction is the opposite of what you say in all examples in the last two days and you have absolutely zero proof otherwise.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

No, you said you could demonstrate the push, so do so or you prove yourself a liar.

I said to offer the diagram and I'll happily point it all out to you.

Playbook: Do some homework for me

Can you prove that what you are saying is true and the mainstream view is not?

To me, yes. To you and the many like you.... unlikely.

Force is a vector, is has a magnitude and a direction. The direction is the opposite of what you say in all examples in the last two days and you have absolutely zero proof otherwise.

As above.

 

[Kevj]

Force is a vector, is has a magnitude and a direction. The direction is the opposite of what you say in all examples in the last two days and you have absolutely zero proof otherwise.

I suspect this is another means of circumventing acknowledgment of gravity and other forces which in disprove his musings.

 

[chelt_mackem]

I said to offer the diagram and I'll happily point it all out to you.

To me, yes. To you and the many like you.... unlikely.

As above.

It's your hypothesis, so you can provide the diagram. Not my problem if you lack the knowledge to back your hypotheses up.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

It's your hypothesis, so you can provide the diagram. Not my problem if you lack the knowledge to back your hypotheses up.

Ok, no problem.

 

[chelt_mackem]

Ok, no problem.

So the loco pulls the train. Glad you finally agree with reality.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So the loco pulls the train. Glad you finally agree with reality.

Your belief and it's not a problem to me. You're entitled to believe what you wish.

 

[chelt_mackem]

Your belief and it's not a problem to me. You're entitled to believe what you wish.

No belief needed, just the facts we can see.

Unless you want to prove otherwise.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

No belief needed, just the facts we can see.

Unless you want to prove otherwise.

I'll let you decide whatever you wish.