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Protest At The Man United Game

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gipetto said:
I'm a joke? f***ing hell :lol:

You're absolutely all over this thread to the point of it being embarrassing. You seem satisfied with how the club is being run, you seem content with our points tally and the way Moyes is performing. You have an excuse for everything, you appear to be arguing tooth and nail about fuck all, desperately clinging on to our failure tag and excusing our lack of goals and unacceptable run of results.

If anyone is embarrassing on this thread, its the fans that are excusing Short, Moyes and anyone else who have played a part in our ultimate downfall.

You're now colluding with Braithwaite who has confessed that he has never supported Sunderland in his life, he follows whichever club Moyes is manager of :lol: then you have the audacity to have a go at posters like @haway who although you may disagree with, only wants what's best for the club and its fans.



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I'm not happy with Moyes or Short or our points tally .... I've not made excuses for them and I've not excused our lack of goals or results.

Nor am I colluding with anyone in the way you're doing by tagging people to summon help ..... so, you're entirely wrong about all of that.

The reason I find you laughable is that you'll say whatever you think makes you right then claim it wasn't serious when you're proved wrong .... easy game to play.

" ..... the audacity to have a go at posters like @haway ....."

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I think it's safe to say we as fans have been ultra loyal over the years and have been very understanding regarding the expectations of the club. The only thing the club could offer fans to renew their season tickets were their own loyalty. We are the ones with the power not the club it time the owner and those around him found out...
 
MrBraithwaite said:
Indeed - clubs now see fans as customers, so if enough customers are dissatisfied a business will tend to try and meet the demands of the customer. The situation here is more complex however.
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As a customer of any other business if I was dissatisfied with things I wouldn't protest but would stop using them. Mind you I'm over 50 and the Roker Park and red card protests seemed a long time ago. I'll be too busy abusing mourinho as he's a lot closer!
 
Mackemed said:
I think they've been inundated with cancellations. This is a club in crisis.
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F that I've no doubt regarding cancellations. The club however, have been in a crisis since quinn was here just before handing over to Short.. People forget that Quinn was quoted back then stating that Short was the capital injection the club needed to push on forward. How things have changed.

gipetto said:
A fair few I know are packing in. Sick of Short and want Moyes out are their reasons.
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Short has to be given a bit slack as he had, inthe early days stumped up cash for every manager. The trouble as far a i see it is that ALL of the managers/coaches we have had have had very,very different virews as to what players were needed. Dont for get , this is a club that didn't have a left full back for nearly four full seasons. That was not down to Ellis Short but it was down to the previous and current management team he selected.

GBSAFC said:
No wrong answers to the renewal debate anymore ...the club are massive fuck ups...and their counting on it's fans to follow them into whatever oblivion the bungling towards
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They are going to be counting heavily on season ticket sales by the supporters, not customers, for the foreseeable future so the y had better get used to it.
 
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WHD said:
I'm not sure what your point is? Bruce would have took us down just like he did with Hull so we would have been relegated anyway.
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Sorry but that is total guesswork, yes Bruce did have long winless runs whilst here, that can't be denied but to finish 13th and 10th we must've had some very good periods as well which conveniently get forgotten. His record in market in the main was pretty good here, better than any other manager since we came back up. He had earned the right to rectify his one poor window IMO.
 
Reiver said:
I'm not happy with Moyes or Short or our points tally .... I've not made excuses for them and I've not excused our lack of goals or results.

Nor am I colluding with anyone in the way you're doing by tagging people to summon help ..... so, you're entirely wrong about all of that.

The reason I find you laughable is that you'll say whatever you think makes you right then claim it wasn't serious when you're proved wrong .... easy game to play.

" ..... the audacity to have a go at posters like @haway ....."

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Yes that's exactly what I do :rolleyes: I can look after myself pal, I don't need any help. Least of all when responding to you.
 
gipetto said:
Yes that's exactly what I do :rolleyes: I can look after myself pal, I don't need any help. Least of all when responding to you.
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The hypocrisy in post you've responded to is staggering actually.
The bloke is arguing into the early hours of the morning about a protest in a game he has no intention of attending! :confused:
 
Maximus said:
As a customer of any other business if I was dissatisfied with things I wouldn't protest but would stop using them. Mind you I'm over 50 and the Roker Park and red card protests seemed a long time ago. I'll be too busy abusing mourinho as he's a lot closer!
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This is it - don't take what I'm about to say the wrong way, but things have been much worse in my lifetime, let alone the lifetimes of folk like yourself and Reiver.
 
Mrjardine said:
Sorry but that is total guesswork, yes Bruce did have long winless runs whilst here, that can't be denied but to finish 13th and 10th we must've had some very good periods as well which conveniently get forgotten. His record in market in the main was pretty good here, better than any other manager since we came back up. He had earned the right to rectify his one poor window IMO.
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It wasn't poor it was disastrous from the 10-11 season to 11-12 we went from having Gyan, Bent, Wellbeck, Henderson, Malbranque and Zenden to having Whickham, Ji, Gardner, Vaughan, and Elmohamady. On the pitch that was the start of the problems and there was only the Di Canio/De Fanti sigings which were anywhere as near as bad during this spell in the top flight.
 
JonnotheMackem said:
This is it - don't take what I'm about to say the wrong way, but things have been much worse in my lifetime, let alone the lifetimes of folk like yourself and Reiver.
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Financially speaking it's never been worse. In terms of points haul, we're currently equal on our worst ever tally. We can't score and we can't win.

It hasn't been much worse. Relegation to the third division is the only season that you really could consider worse other than the 15 point season.
 
Mrjardine said:
Sorry but that is total guesswork, yes Bruce did have long winless runs whilst here, that can't be denied but to finish 13th and 10th we must've had some very good periods as well which conveniently get forgotten. His record in market in the main was pretty good here, better than any other manager since we came back up. He had earned the right to rectify his one poor window IMO.
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His last window was disastrous tbf
 
gipetto said:
Financially speaking it's never been worse. In terms of points haul, we're currently equal on our worst ever tally. We can't score and we can't win.

It hasn't been much worse. Relegation to the third division is the only season that you really could consider worse other than the 15 point season.
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Yes and as you say financially it's never been so desperate. The club need to come clean about things like this alleged pay-off to Byrne. They're accountable to us.
 
The minute you start doing anything other than supporting the lads, you get problems. The fans get used to a way of behaving and protesting and it gets into a vicious cycle of protest and fans turning on the club. I can understand why fans might protest, but the outcome will be negative for the team. Manager and players don't want that going on in the background.
 
Marv said:
The minute you start doing anything other than supporting the lads, you get problems. The fans get used to a way of behaving and protesting and it gets into a vicious cycle of protest and fans turning on the club. I can understand why fans might protest, but the outcome will be negative for the team. Manager and players don't want that going on in the background.
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More negative than scoring in only 1 of the last 10 games? Shit.
 
Mrjardine said:
Sorry but that is total guesswork, yes Bruce did have long winless runs whilst here, that can't be denied but to finish 13th and 10th we must've had some very good periods as well which conveniently get forgotten. His record in market in the main was pretty good here, better than any other manager since we came back up. He had earned the right to rectify his one poor window IMO.
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Here's something I never thought I would say - I'd rather have Bruce as manager than Moyes.
 
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