Not all racists are thickos

Discussion in 'SMB' started by Stevie Freestein II, Jan 13, 2019 at 5:07 PM.

  1. DNA pioneer loses honours over race claims

    Nobel Prize-winning American scientist James Watson has been stripped of his honorary titles after repeating comments about race and intelligence.

    In a TV programme, the pioneer in DNA studies made a reference to a view that genes cause a difference on average between blacks and whites on IQ tests.
     
  2. Fact Hunt

    Fact Hunt Winger

    I disagree.
    Judging people by their colour is a sure sign of stupidity. Goes hand in hand with bigotry.
     
  3. Charmless Man

    Charmless Man Striker

    He’s well known within his own community for being a complete tosser*. Academia does have a habit of sheltering these people with extreme views (despite what the right would have you believe it’s not just a cosy cabal of seditious lefties).

    *Source, I know a former graduate student of his well.

    James Watson is certainly a bigot (a racist and a misogynist) but he is most definitely not stupid.
     
  4. How many Nobel Prizes have you won then? :lol:
     
  5. Fact Hunt

    Fact Hunt Winger

    It’s not like you to be defending racist bigots is it, Stevie?
     
  6. Everyone is bigoted in some way.
     
  7. Charmless Man

    Charmless Man Striker

    I doubt he’s defending his bigotry.

    Surely you must see that people can be very intelligent but cling on to irrational views?
     
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  8. Mrjardine

    Mrjardine Striker

    I played cricket with a South African doctor who said the country was a complete shambles after apartheid.

    He said during apartheid it was a fantastic place to be.

    He also made a point of how Zimbabwe had gone to wreck and ruin under a black government.

    He certainly wasn’t a caps lock billy type character.
     
  9. Was this doctor black or white?
     
  10. Roaring Chubby

    Roaring Chubby Midfield

    Interesting topic for me, I have no prior knowledge of old Jim and his views however. I will also caveat this with the fact that I feel no intellectual superiority vs the numerous non white people ive worked with over the years, many/the majority make me feel intellectually inferior. I’m just one data point of course.

    I just can’t get my head around the fact that black people, based upon what you see in elite sport, are generally physically superior. Factor in that (generally) they won’t have the same advantages that white kids have, it makes it more impressive. I think you could go on record and state that with confidence that you wouldn’t be flamed. See boxing, running, football, American sports etc. On that basis, is it unreasonable to assume that race is unequal in terms of intelligence? Maybe black people have it nailed on all fronts but I don’t understand how the brain is always assumed equal but the rest of the body can clearly be superior from race to race.
     
  11. Mrjardine

    Mrjardine Striker

    White.
     
  12. No surprise he preferred the apartheid period of time then really is it.
     
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  13. Good Bloke Fairly

    Good Bloke Fairly Subs Bench

    Someone will be along shortly to shoot you down even though your argument is very hard to disagree with.
     
  14. Mrjardine

    Mrjardine Striker

    He was of the opinion under white rule the country was running well.

    According to him once the blacks got foot back in door again crime and poverty became far more of an issue.

    No idea if this is true or can be backed up with stats by the way just illustrating how it isn’t just knuckle dragging roid heads who hold what could be deemed racist views
     
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  15. His examples are restricted to boxing (plenty of white champions), running (plenty of white champions) and football (cruyff, beckenbauer and Messi are total donkeys).
     
  16. Mrjardine

    Mrjardine Striker

    Claiming black peoples are supreme is fine and seemingly to be encouraged.

    Point out the stronger points of white people and you’re a racist.
     
  17. Good Bloke Fairly

    Good Bloke Fairly Subs Bench

    He hasn't said there were only people of colour to have succeeded in those fields.
     
  18. Andy_Roker1983

    Andy_Roker1983 Striker

    Looking at it from the other way, you don’t see many successful black swimmers. I don’t think it’s wrong to question if there are differences between races. Genes and evolution surely will have had an effect on how races developed.
     
  19. Apparently it’s because in the USA especially a lot of black people don’t have access to swimming facilities. I’m sure that they’re potentially as good as white people who swim.

    He said that in general, black elite sports people are physically superior.
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2019 at 6:02 PM
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  20. Good Bloke Fairly

    Good Bloke Fairly Subs Bench

    Tbf it probably comes down to social aspects more so than genes.

    Brazilians playing footy with oranges etc.
     

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