North Stand

[Zimba]

Away fans should be in the SEC and the family zone moved upstairs. Having the kids corner next to the singing end makes no sense, just encourages them hearing bad language and things, and having the away fans apart from the singing end just negatively impacts both the atmosphere created by the away fans and the singing end. The SWC was much louder when it was next to the away fans than it is now.

This solves the North Standers getting shit lobbed at them (bearing in mind the brunt of those getting hit are actually the BCB ST holders who are paying a premium) and puts the away fans right next to the giant coach park right outside the SEC, which should be repurposed and used for the away fans coaches, which cannot be situated in the sheepfolds for long when all the bars and fanzone opens.

However this would require some investment to relocate security barriers, etc., which is why it isn't considered, despite being the most logical option.

Could never have the away stand in the SEC like, would be an absolute nightmare to move away fans in / out the stadium on days like yesterday as you can't block it off at all when it's not a bubble trip.

Aren't the BCB fans protected as they're effectively under the stand though? Not sure it's them that's impacted by things been throwing.

 

[Mackem Attack]

Could never have the away stand in the SEC like, would be an absolute nightmare to move away fans in / out the stadium on days like yesterday as you can't block it off at all when it's not a bubble trip.

Aren't the BCB fans protected as they're effectively under the stand though? Not sure it's them that's impacted by things been throwing.

You could build that big-ass wall from the metro up to the SEC easier than any other corner of the ground. Or just do the bubble thing and cordon off the giant coach car park and have somewhere to park the busses

 

[Zimba]

You'd lose hundreds of ST holders permanently doing that. I've sat in my seat in the North Stand since 1998, my Dad and his mates have sat in the next few since 1997, and stood at the equivalent place in Roker since 1975. The majority of people around us have also been going since the stadium opened and can guarantee a large section of these wouldn't move elsewhere. I know many didn't attend yesterday for this same reason, and would rather cancel than relocate.

To be honest, I think you'll have problems wherever you move them though for similar reasons unless it's the South Stand but then you've got the South Stander's problem as no-one wants them. Like your idea is bringing the SEC into the mess and forcing people there to move instead who won't want to be upstairs as it's rubbish. Not to mention the South side of the East stand probably don't want to be next to the away fans either with their bovril and blankets.

No malice intended to anyone in the North Stand, but right now it's a North stand problem. I'm not too sure it's the best idea to piss off other stands over it and move the problem elsewhere.

Btw on the wall, not sure that would be possible as you'd have thousands of Newcastle fans going 5 mph through the Stadium of Light Metro station, not to mention the problems of the likes of Coventry coming out giving it the biggun and the South standers on coke walking straight into them. Asking for carnage.

 

[forzamilansafc]

Need to move the away fans back to the south stand, like the stadium was designed for. Get rid of this daft idea of the “roker end” and have the seats next to it as match day sales only. It can be scaled up too. It worked when Hartlepool brought 9000. Bring back SWC corner as the most partisan area……
It’s such a shame there’s been short term gain appeasing nufc for a one off game. Although it may have been a bit money spinner, it should be considered against the longer impact of displeasuring the core fanbase.
Sadly just like Ballard did, the club have scored an own goal.

I think they'll move to the North lower

 

[Deleted member 52509]

Tin hat on but as important for me at the minute is each fan ensuring their kids /grandkids are taken to games when it would be so easy to follow Mags -great so many yesterday seemed ti have their lads /lasses at their first derby
Spoke to a season ticket holder yesterday and his son is following them ( admittedly I had to bite my lip ) née way would I let mine ( took them since very young -they now live away and travel in for games )
This and the next generation are going to be vital to our club -especially in the outlying traditional Sunderland areas ( think the city will look after itself )?
As I say tin hat on but as an owldie , what’s going on up the road and stuff here we need try and continue the passion for the club .
One day maybe the club will match the fans .
HTL

 

[Mackem Attack]

To be honest, I think you'll have problems wherever you move them though for similar reasons unless it's the South Stand but then you've got the South Stander's problem as no-one wants them. Like your idea is bringing the SEC into the mess and forcing people there to move instead who won't want to be upstairs as it's rubbish. Not to mention the South side of the East stand probably don't want to be next to the away fans either with their bovril and blankets.

No malice intended to anyone in the North Stand, but right now it's a North stand problem. I'm not too sure it's the best idea to piss off other stands over it and move the problem elsewhere.

Btw on the wall, not sure that would be possible as you'd have thousands of Newcastle fans going 5 mph through the Stadium of Light Metro station, not to mention the problems of the likes of Coventry coming out giving it the biggun and the South standers on coke walking straight into them. Asking for carnage.

Newcastle fans would get off at St Peters not the SOL station, and we'll have a new bridge soon to divert fans down. End of the day, away fans need moving, we all agree, and therefore some ST holders are going to have to move. And SEC holders haven't been there long, as it hasn't been the family corner for long, so makes the most sense to me to move them

 

[Zimba]

Newcastle fans would get off at St Peters not the SOL station, and we'll have a new bridge soon to divert fans down. End of the day, away fans need moving, we all agree, and therefore some ST holders are going to have to move. And SEC holders haven't been there long, as it hasn't been the family corner for long, so makes the most sense to me to move them

Depends where people are going though, not everyone is heading towards the city so people from the South stand would be trapped heading towards the Wheatsheaf. Not sure the SEC ticket holders were ever booted out were they though? I think they just named it the family stand didn't they and all the existing people just stayed there? Happy to be corrected on that though.

 

[Mackem Attack]

Depends where people are going though, not everyone is heading towards the city so people from the South stand would be trapped heading towards the Wheatsheaf. Not sure the SEC ticket holders were ever booted out were they though? I think they just named it the family stand didn't they and all the existing people just stayed there? Happy to be corrected on that though.

I can't imagine many stayed put when it was made into a creche. Like I said though, someone is going to be displaced and pissed off though, so can't win unfortunately.

 

[Tmm24]

Newcastle fans would get off at St Peters not the SOL station, and we'll have a new bridge soon to divert fans down. End of the day, away fans need moving, we all agree, and therefore some ST holders are going to have to move. And SEC holders haven't been there long, as it hasn't been the family corner for long, so makes the most sense to me to move them

We have been in the sec for yrs even before it was the family stand and so have everyone around us so that arguement doesnt stack up its the ST holders in the south stand that have been there the least amount of time if you want to use that arguement

 

[Mackem Attack]

We have been in the sec for yrs even before it was the family stand and so have everyone around us so that arguement doesnt stack up its the ST holders in the south stand that have been there the least amount of time if you want to use that arguement

Yea sure some have, but many will have moved when it was made into the creche as I said. Like I said, someone will have to be moved somewhere, so it's about a damage limitation assessment not making it perfect for everyone. But it cannot continue as it is, as it is absolutely farcical tbh

 

[Tmm24]

Yea sure some have, but many will have moved when it was made into the creche as I said. Like I said, someone will have to be moved somewhere, so it's about a damage limitation assessment not making it perfect for everyone. But it cannot continue as it is, as it is absolutely farcical tbh

Well from what i can see from faces i recognise from over the yrs a hell of a lot stayed and why stick young kids up in the gods thats not fair as for a lot of them the experiance of being able to go down to the front before the match and watch the players warm up at close range and getting to see samson and delihla stuff like that sticks with them and that creche as you call it contains the fans of tomorrow dont forget that, take away that experiance for them and a lot of them will drift away then where will we be in 30yrs time its not just about today its about making sure we have fans in the future to

 

[Bossworld]

Having away fans downstairs defo brought on the other parts of the ground, like NEC & NWC with fans standing and roaring on the players

Atmosphere generated from all parts of the ground was good to see instead of just a few blocks at the back of the south stand

This is a good point and will probably get lost. I dunno how you fix it without displacing a lot of fans permanently (and I guess being in the SEC my lad and I are probably most at risk).

One of my first posts on this board was as an away fan, talking about how we (Wolves) were completely drowned out in volume by the SWC.

Having the away fans in the North Upper and the vocal home fans at the opposite end of the ground, seems to remove the back and forth singing you get at other grounds. I don't understand how the Mags have kept their dispensation either.

 

[harryCLSsafc]

People should stop buying tickets for the North Stand and sit somewhere else. An empty end and no BCB revenue would send a loud message to the hierarchy at SAFC.

 

[errant]

"why's the north stand full of shit?"

*that* post match photo desecrates the north end forever & more for me…

 

[JPS]

I don’t think you can really say that when it was a derby and the first one for so many years.

If it was Preston at home with the few away fans being downstairs and the atmosphere was brilliant then fair enough, but under the circumstances the atmosphere should have been great no matter what

If you watch back previous derby game when the mm lot are upstairs, the north stand NEC, NWC

It looked class having the whole south stand on their feet for 90 mins yesterday. Get a standing section across the whole end asap

i noticed that, SWC, SEC and south all standing, defo creates a livelier atmosphere

It’s not always about chanting it’s more about the roar of encouragement, the roar from a tackle etc

Be nice if everyone stayed until end, you saw the players appreciation at the south stand yesterday

 

[rob79safc]

It’s all relatively simple to understand.

By purchasing a season ticket you accept the terms and conditions, which state you had no right to have the same seat for an FACup match.

You got the chance of another seat , that’s all you’re entitled to.

90 minutes in a different seat , but you want an apology and compensation.

Bearing in mind that the early rounds of the cups in general, thousands of season ticket holders don’t bother turning up anyway , which would have been the case if we’d played a lower league club.

Compensation ? , take the club to court then If you dont get what you want.

We have some morons sat in amongst us every week.

You're completely missing the point...

 

[tunstallhill]

End of the day, away fans need moving, we all agree

no we don't. you don't speak for all of us.

they should be in the north stand upper with a net in front of them. all things considered, its the best option

Agree yeah the SEC would be the most logical place for them

its by far the most illogical place for them. that corner of the ground outside is the busiest part of the surrounding area on a match day. anywhere around the stokoe statue has the most amount of home fans walking past, anyone going to the town or to the weatsheaf direction. yeah, lets put 3000 birmingham, leeds, coventry fans slap bang in the middle of it all. its the stupidest idea i've ever heard and thats why i totally expect SAFC to do it due to 'fan pressure'. then when theres trouble every other home game, with kids and women and families and old people getting caught in the middle of it , i fully expect the vast majority on here and FB to call the club stupid for doing it, saying how it was 'always a bad idea' etc... instead of waiting for hindsight to kick in, think about it now and avoid it.

 

[dangermows]

Oh and then have the aftermath about throwing missiles etc.
The fact is the club were in a no win situation.
My only gripe is the BCB should have remained closed

Mags haven't hoyed anything down before when up there. You reckon we'd have given another set the NS in case they hoyed out down? The club could put a net up. Police it better. There's plenty they could and can do.

Presume if the mags get a home tie next they'll give up lower bowls or put nets up? Or perhaps they'll do neither.

 

[ClassicDom]

Hardly after any money pal. Just a gesture to apologise for the inconvenience to be honest. Something that shows the club, while they make out like there wasn't any choice but to shift us, here's a 30% off at the club shop. Something small that might have had fans feeling at least a bit appreciated.

Every Newcastle gan got a free scarf yesterday. While some wil think it's just a scarf. It's their club looking after their 6k fans and being thankful

Every Newcastle fan got a scarf, they got our home end and our hospitality suite decorated to suit them.

And yet Sunderland fans on here claim we’re the ones who should be thankful. f***ing pathetic.

 

[ATS]

Newcastle fans would get off at St Peters not the SOL station, and we'll have a new bridge soon to divert fans down. End of the day, away fans need moving, we all agree, and therefore some ST holders are going to have to move. And SEC holders haven't been there long, as it hasn't been the family corner for long, so makes the most sense to me to move them

I'd prefer to keep them where they are but if they have to be brought downstairs for safety reasons it has to be in a corner. Never behind a goal. Our fans should always be behind both goals.