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Newcastle ufc (May 2019)

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SmellyMags said:
Weird how Big Sam got the England job when he was managing us. If he was any good, he wouldn't have been managing us. Really odd.
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Look man you're clearly a dopey mag. You're posting on a Sunderland message board at 5 in the morning. Maybe it's time to re-evaluate your life and ask yourself "what am I doing with my life" then ask "what am I gaining out of making a massive **** of myself on the internet"

Sound advice this
 
burb said:
They play turgid football and are backing their manager, so what? We are doing exactly the same two divisions lower, or most of us are.
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The only difference being is that we don’t feel the urge to go on a Newcastle forum to back our manager. If we did, I’m sure they would have something to say about it.
 
burb said:
Why do people get their knickers in a twist because the mags choose to support their manager. It's their club let them get on with it, he is doing a decent job.
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Fans of both clubs like their manager, a rarity in the NE.
 
RichD said:
Shouting at shops won't get you that lot...
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Just because it hasn't worked yet...

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Binxy said:
Didn't Benitez also have those two when we relegated you.

Get f***ing real man you played the worst football in the whole league.
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Nah, that's just your bias talking.

10 Gary Rowells said:
I think there is a middle way - plenty of manager's have achieved more than Benitez has at Newcastle with less resources. Sunderland fans will play up the negatives but there is no doubt that Newcastle fans way over play this 'World Class Manager' stuff. He's done OK nowt better.
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Really? Like who?
 
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back in 84/85 i wandered in The Barley Mow a week after Fred had taken it over and ended up handing over half of my Student Grant to him over the next three years!
Back then there was nothing on the Quayside. Walking down from The Mow where the Courthouse is now there were derelict warehouses and i think you had to walk all the way along to The Red House for your next bar and that was typically empty. Not a great area for wandering around at night.
Ironic that as everything has built up around The Mow which is now derelict. Something to do with a landlord/council dispute?
 
Mr B said:
Corrected your first sentence for you, and if you honestly believe he doesn’t play turgid football, then I have to assume you don’t watch them very often going by the number of times he simply parks the bus and ends up with 20 odd percent of the play.
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Pardew wasn't in charge of recruitment, Graham Carr was. In fact I can only remember Pardew getting to buy one player off the top of my head; Gabriel Obertan.

Being pragmatic isn't the same as Parking the Bus. And certainly, when we had a bit more quality in the attacking phase, Newcastle United were able to play a better brand of football. There's also a degree of pleasure taken from a well organised team getting a result against better opposition with good defending and efficient strikers. As surely you must remember from Allardyce's time at your place.
 
leyburnrunner said:
back in 84/85 i wandered in The Barley Mow a week after Fred had taken it over and ended up handing over half of my Student Grant to him over the next three years!
Back then there was nothing on the Quayside. Walking down from The Mow where the Courthouse is now there were derelict warehouses and i think you had to walk all the way along to The Red House for your next bar and that was typically empty. Not a great area for wandering around at night.
Ironic that as everything has built up around The Mow which is now derelict. Something to do with a landlord/council dispute?
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I loved the Quayside at that time - it was much more derelict but it wasn't dangerous. That was where we drank and I never felt threatened.
 
The Fish said:
Pardew wasn't in charge of recruitment, Graham Carr was. In fact I can only remember Pardew getting to buy one player off the top of my head; Gabriel Obertan.

Being pragmatic isn't the same as Parking the Bus. And certainly, when we had a bit more quality in the attacking phase, Newcastle United were able to play a better brand of football. There's also a degree of pleasure taken from a well organised team getting a result against better opposition with good defending and efficient strikers. As surely you must remember from Allardyce's time at your place.
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BTW just checked how much the Leicester squad cost when they won the league -£54M, Burnley squad cost £62M. Last year your squad cost £124M, not including your record signing. I really don't see Benitez record at Newcastle as anything other than average at best. I don't see how you can argue otherwise.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
Leicester winning the league, Burnley qualifying for Europe and plenty of others. I'm sure those two will have had lower wage bills than Newcastle.
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Sorry, crossed wires, thought you meant plenty of managers had achieved more than Benitez at Newcastle. Hence my surprise.

Yes there are a few managers who've done well on a small budget Like Burnley. But look at this table, lifted from the
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Let's not kid ourselves that Newcastle United are spending great sums on transfer fees, or wages.

Benitez is highly regarded by experts, journalists, pundits, ex-players, contemporaries and so on. Are they all wrong?

I think great effort is put in by some Sunderland fans to paint Benitez as a charlatan. Sure there are some Newcastle fans for whom he can do no wrong, but that's hardly unique to us and him, I mean I still to this day see people on here trying to make out Allardyce wasn't a long ball merchant etc.
He has his faults, but in my opinion his strengths outweigh his weaknesses and he remains the best manager for Newcastle United right now.

10 Gary Rowells said:
BTW just checked how much the Leicester squad cost when they won the league -£54M, Burnley squad cost £62M. Last year your squad cost £124M, not including your record signing. I really don't see Benitez record at Newcastle as anything other than average at best. I don't see how you can argue otherwise.
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Where'd you get those figures from?
 
The denigrating of Benitez on here is a bit OTT imho.
Ok, he's manager of our detested neighbours, and it's 14 years ago since his Liverpool side rather fortuitously somehow won the EC, but he is still a damn good manager.
I'll tell you this, IF he had been in charge of us instead of Moyes, we'd have made a much greater fist of avoiding the drop and might even have survived.
Ok, his football isn't always attractive, but he gets teams organised, disciplined and always up for a fight.
Let's give an iota of credit to him for the job he's done at skunkville under difficult circumstances.
It's making Safc fans look a bit petty and even envious this continual belittling of him.
 
Benitez is a very average manager. Failed in most jobs. Fair enough he won the champions league but so has Roberto Di Matteo who's trophy record in England is similar.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
I know - hilarious. Its irrelevant where the money comes from. If Benitez has spent more than twice the amount that Leicester did when they won the league or Burnley when the got to Europe I would expect a little more than 13th from a 'World Class' Manager.
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How about 10th? How about one of the best defences in the league outside the elite clubs?

I would expect Benitez to be capable of delivering more than midtable, and if he had true control of the transfers and a budget comparable with the teams we've finished around, I'm sure he could deliver that.

JL1985 said:
Benitez is a very average manager. Failed in most jobs. Fair enough he won the champions league but so has Roberto Di Matteo who's trophy record in England is similar.
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:lol: You're funny.
 
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Dinosaur's still alive?
 
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