Making A Murderer Season 2
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jacko100
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APepper8
Midfield
I'd say they're definitely involved - even if it's just a "we want him in prison" rather than knowing who did it. Colburn calling in her exact number plate a day before the car was found was the most obvious, watching him squirm on the stand was enjoyable to watch
Hugh Gains
Winger
Finished season 2, definitely could have been done in five episodes.
Decent nonetheless.
Got to feel for Brendan dassey. Lost the appeal on a 4 to 3 decision, that’s grim.
On the Avery side of things, when they mentioned the coroner in episode 10 I thought she could be bullshitting for attention but to find out that she was at the original trial and the prosecution didn’t want her testifying is damning.
I mean what she said is perfectly true, apparently they didn’t want her involved because Avery had a case against manitowoc county for his first acquittal. Yet at the same time officers involved in the original case are mincing in the guys bedroom. So they nullify a conflict of interest for the coroner who has no ties to the original conviction, but don’t nullify the conflict of interest of officers who were involved in averys first conviction/acquittal.
The whole thing stinks man. Maybe he did do it, but on all the evidence we’ve seen how can you possible agree that he’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
I mean, add that evidence from that other lads computer, which is shady as fuck and certainly would have damaged his credibility as the states witness.
They covered a lot of evidence to do with the blood aswell, but I always thought the blood evidence looked dodgy in season 1.
Decent nonetheless.
Got to feel for Brendan dassey. Lost the appeal on a 4 to 3 decision, that’s grim.
On the Avery side of things, when they mentioned the coroner in episode 10 I thought she could be bullshitting for attention but to find out that she was at the original trial and the prosecution didn’t want her testifying is damning.
I mean what she said is perfectly true, apparently they didn’t want her involved because Avery had a case against manitowoc county for his first acquittal. Yet at the same time officers involved in the original case are mincing in the guys bedroom. So they nullify a conflict of interest for the coroner who has no ties to the original conviction, but don’t nullify the conflict of interest of officers who were involved in averys first conviction/acquittal.
The whole thing stinks man. Maybe he did do it, but on all the evidence we’ve seen how can you possible agree that he’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
I mean, add that evidence from that other lads computer, which is shady as fuck and certainly would have damaged his credibility as the states witness.
They covered a lot of evidence to do with the blood aswell, but I always thought the blood evidence looked dodgy in season 1.
mux
Striker
I think the fact that it splits opinion so massively on whether they are guilty or not says everything you need to know about the absolute disaster of an investigation and justice system that was conducted.
Cases are generally pretty cut and dried and don't rely on absolute bollocks, and shady bollocks at that, which makes this all the more suspicious.
Stod1554
Central Defender
I don’t know how anyone can really think it’s them... the original case that has them behind bars is built on fake evidence and the sheer lack of other evidence should clearly tell it wasn’t them... no DNA evidence of her been in the bedroom, no blood in the garage and now the fact the bullet proven to not have passed through bone!
It’s crazy how they are still in a jail, or at least don’t have a new trial lined up.
There have been so many fuck ups, I’m just surprised that none of them have been killed off yet... family car crash on way to visit.... suicide.... shanked in a jail brawl!
He was going to get about 34 million before.... imagine what his new lawyer would get him, on top of what she will claim from the government in charges! Doubt that’s going to be allowed to happen....
So what will?
It’s crazy how they are still in a jail, or at least don’t have a new trial lined up.
There have been so many fuck ups, I’m just surprised that none of them have been killed off yet... family car crash on way to visit.... suicide.... shanked in a jail brawl!
He was going to get about 34 million before.... imagine what his new lawyer would get him, on top of what she will claim from the government in charges! Doubt that’s going to be allowed to happen....
So what will?
HoxtonMackem
Winger
Watched all of it (S1&S2) over the last fortnight or so.
To be honest, at the end of S1 I was torn between whether or not Avery did it, but after watching S2 there is no way in my head that I can accept that he is guilty.
Is it just me or was the jury's decision to find him guilty of murder but not the mutilation of the corpse just weird? Surely it's either both or neither?! Almost as if they were sort of torn and couldn't agree between them, were sick of deliberating for hours and days and just trotted out a sort of half compromise of a verdict to get away. That bloke who was the dismissed jury member said the chemistry between the jurors was toxic and awkward like.
I didn't like early on in S2 when Avery booted off about his two lawyers from the trial (the 2 blokes) saying that they weren't arsed about him etc. , I honestly think that they were just out of their depth and became overwhelmed by the publicity of the case and the pressure on them. Had he had Zellner then he wouldn't have been locked up, although she only specialises in exoneration for wrongful convictions (unless I'm wrong?) so unlikely he'd have been able to hire her at that point in time anyway.
Bobby Dassey guilty as sin for me like, if only his search history/vile pics was presented to the jury in the trial things could have. and probably would have gone a lot different. It's since been proven by Zellner that he has made conflicting statements about where he was at what time on the day of the murder.
I reckon that Barb and Scott Tadych know more than they are letting on.
I don't think the police planted any evidence, but they probably know who did it and Avery being locked up means that they'll never have to write him that massive cheque for compo for his original false conviction and so having the opportunity to frame him just plays nicely for them, a perfect storm of freak events which has in effect been like winning the lottery for them.
Absolutely sad to predict I know, but I can't see him or Brendan ever getting out of jail now. No way the system will allow itself to be made a laughing stock which is what would happen should he ever be released.
The fact that the police coerced Dassey aside, if that happened here - the case against him would be laughed out of the courtroom.
To be honest, at the end of S1 I was torn between whether or not Avery did it, but after watching S2 there is no way in my head that I can accept that he is guilty.
Is it just me or was the jury's decision to find him guilty of murder but not the mutilation of the corpse just weird? Surely it's either both or neither?! Almost as if they were sort of torn and couldn't agree between them, were sick of deliberating for hours and days and just trotted out a sort of half compromise of a verdict to get away. That bloke who was the dismissed jury member said the chemistry between the jurors was toxic and awkward like.
I didn't like early on in S2 when Avery booted off about his two lawyers from the trial (the 2 blokes) saying that they weren't arsed about him etc. , I honestly think that they were just out of their depth and became overwhelmed by the publicity of the case and the pressure on them. Had he had Zellner then he wouldn't have been locked up, although she only specialises in exoneration for wrongful convictions (unless I'm wrong?) so unlikely he'd have been able to hire her at that point in time anyway.
Bobby Dassey guilty as sin for me like, if only his search history/vile pics was presented to the jury in the trial things could have. and probably would have gone a lot different. It's since been proven by Zellner that he has made conflicting statements about where he was at what time on the day of the murder.
I reckon that Barb and Scott Tadych know more than they are letting on.
I don't think the police planted any evidence, but they probably know who did it and Avery being locked up means that they'll never have to write him that massive cheque for compo for his original false conviction and so having the opportunity to frame him just plays nicely for them, a perfect storm of freak events which has in effect been like winning the lottery for them.
Absolutely sad to predict I know, but I can't see him or Brendan ever getting out of jail now. No way the system will allow itself to be made a laughing stock which is what would happen should he ever be released.
The fact that the police coerced Dassey aside, if that happened here - the case against him would be laughed out of the courtroom.
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