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Joe Root calls for a reduction in county cricker

redandwhiterob said:
I don't think anyone is saying any thoughts on the subject have been polished up by someone. Any article a sportsman does in a paper is ghost written to an extent but it's mental to suggest he's been forced to put it on there when he may think something different
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Written on behalf of him and signed off by his agent probably, I would be surprised if Root had even read them. Its a PCA report, they would need a quote from a high profile player, and that's what it is.

Contract obligations completed, jobs a good 'un.

As I said (before I got accused of being a conspiracy theorist :lol:), I neither know nor care what his actual opinion is, and it doesn't really matter anyway.
 

Steak Pie said:
Written on behalf of him and signed off by his agent probably, I would be surprised if Root had even read them. Its a PCA report, they would need a quote from a high profile player, and that's what it is.

Contract obligations completed, jobs a good 'un.

As I said (before I got accused of being a conspiracy theorist :lol:), I neither know nor care what his actual opinion is, and it doesn't really matter anyway.
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You think Joe Roots eating his breakfast one morning and sees a quote in a high profile report from him and he doesn't know about it? :lol:
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
From what I’ve read, admittedly skimmed, I don’t think anyone has said forced have they? But he’s certainly conflicted

The outrage at a few nasty words thrown at him was the first thing that derailed the thread of course.
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Was it outrage?

Or just pointing out the bloke deserves better?

Maybe if people didn’t throw them insults the debate could have been about the issue just a thought.

Bit like the ref threads on this board on pure football some don’t like debate just throwing insults
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Was it outrage?

Or just pointing out the bloke deserves better?

Maybe if people didn’t throw them insults the debate could have been about the issue just a thought.

Bit like the ref threads on this board on pure football some don’t like debate just throwing insults
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It's pretty certain that Root knew about the article credited to him but I think I can say with absolute confidence that Root doesn't read this board so why the hell does matter if there's a few invectives posted about him?
 
Parkside said:
It's pretty certain that Root knew about the article credited to him but I think I can say with absolute confidence that Root doesn't read this board so why the hell does matter if there's a few invectives posted about him?
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It doesn’t matter of course.

But why do it (not you) just debate the issue is that hard?

Just frustrates me slightly :D

That people can have impeccable careers like Strauss and Root, yet the moment they suggest a change that people have every right to disagree with.

Rather than just doing that the abuse and name calling comes out, simply don’t like it and think they deserve more and better respect
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Was it outrage?

Or just pointing out the bloke deserves better?

Maybe if people didn’t throw them insults the debate could have been about the issue just a thought.

Bit like the ref threads on this board on pure football some don’t like debate just throwing insults
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It’s not like there were insults at his face, and they were due to frustration

If that’s the hill you want to die on, then I give up. He doesn’t need you to protect him
 
Voice of fair play said:
First thing I would do is have one short format tournament not two, and would change it from 100 balls to T20.

No other country has two short format tournaments
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That’s not correct. At least India and Pakistan both have two, one for the franchises and one based on the more conventional domestic structure. Neither of them is daft enough to use the hundred ball format though.
 
Fleagle said:
That’s not correct. At least India and Pakistan both have two, one for the franchises and one based on the more conventional domestic structure. Neither of them is daft enough to use the hundred ball format though.
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Fair enough like I said in the post you quoted would change the main competition to 20 overs and have a designated window for that competition similar to other countries.

Don’t think in this country two T20 competitions or short format competitions there is time to fit both in and give red ball cricket enough time to achieve correct balance between the two
 
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Voice of fair play said:
just debate the issue is that hard?
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For you, yes it is. Every time.
Aidan11 said:
Sussex chairman completely disagrees with Root.

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I’m very confident that John Filby is better placed to give his opinion on this than Joe Root.

The solution to making the game ‘safer’ for players is actually incredibly simple.

Scrap the 16.4.
Reduce the number of Blast group games.

Job done.
 
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Just listened to the latest Wisden podcast on walk this morning, that covered this very subject.

Really good listen and good points on either side of the debate
 
brandon said:
For you, yes it is. Every time.


I’m very confident that John Filby is better placed to give his opinion on this than Joe Root.

The solution to making the game ‘safer’ for players is actually incredibly simple.

Scrap the 16.4.
Reduce the number of Blast group games.

Job done.
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I am confident that John Filby is better placed than Joe Root to comment on how changes to the schedule might impact the commercial position of the counties, and particularly the commercial position of his county. I am less confident he is in a better position to judge the impact of the schedule on fitness and welfare.

Not that being better placed from your own experience to come to a judgement means that you necessarily come to the right one of course. It is perfectly possible to be both informed and wrong. As I think Root is in this case.

I suspect the absolute last thing Filby would want to do would be to reduce the number of home blast games his county has since this is probably pretty much the only thing Sussex stages that makes any money at all.
 
Fleagle said:
I am confident that John Filby is better placed than Joe Root to comment on how changes to the schedule might impact the commercial position of the counties, and particularly the commercial position of his county. I am less confident he is in a better position to judge the impact of the schedule on fitness and welfare.
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Y’know, I’m not so sure that’s true. Now perhaps I’ll concede that Filby isn’t best suited to comment on what it’s like for players fitness and welfare in having to deal with the rigours of a season on the county treadmill, but neither really is Joe Root.

I’ve listened to a few things now over the last 24 hours about it, a lot of people seem absolutely shit scared to mention the obvious (white) elephant in the room that would solve this entire issue in one fell swoop.
 
I fail to see how reducing the number of county games would mean better cricket when it would obviously devalue the competition and render it meaningless as 14 is the minimum not the optimum. If your objective is good Test cricket, bowlers need to bowl long stints and batsmen long innings' and fielders - slippers and other close catchers need to be able to use those skills in a competitive context.

And I see they now saying travelling to different grounds in a health and safety hazard! Bluddy hell. Health and safety gone mad,
 
brandon said:
Y’know, I’m not so sure that’s true. Now perhaps I’ll concede that Filby isn’t best suited to comment on what it’s like for players fitness and welfare in having to deal with the rigours of a season on the county treadmill, but neither really is Joe Root.

I’ve listened to a few things now over the last 24 hours about it, a lot of people seem absolutely shit scared to mention the obvious (white) elephant in the room that would solve this entire issue in one fell swoop.
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Or the fact they have the realism that it’s not going to get scrapped and probably get even bigger, so need to work round it to get the best schedule possible.

Its pointless debating something that is not going to happen.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Or the fact they have the realism that it’s not going to get scrapped and probably get even bigger, so need to work round it to get the best schedule possible.

Its pointless debating something that is not going to happen.
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it'll eventually get scrapped but not before it bankrupts cricket.Tails wagging the dog unfortunately and our county is one with one of the biggest tails. Sod those loyal Defenders. Jonny come lately North and Bostock know what's best.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Or the fact they have bought into the delusion that it’s not going to get scrapped.
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Tidied for accuracy.

If you’re doing a root and branch review of domestic cricket, EVERY single aspect of domestic cricket has to be considered. That’s why Strauss’ Review was massively flawed.

As someone else put so eloquently previously, it’s like having a review into how the Ukraine conflict started, without being allowed to consider any influence by/from Russia.
Voice of fair play said:
Its pointless debating something that is not going to happen.
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With an attitude like that women would never have gained the vote, slavery would never have been abolished and Sunderland would’ve lost the 1973 FA Cup Final.

Stop being a useful idiot.
 
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