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Jack Clarke

nelford_safc said:
I've said this countless times but people just interrupt and shout wages, wages in your face.

Aye, he's on more money but now he's a bench warmer for a much smaller club, with a very high of going straight back down. There's more to football than just wages.
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To you may be but not to 95% of professional footballers ,it's just a job.
Ipswich's set up does not suit Clarke who liked to play wider and cut inside .
That doesn't mean he won't get more time at some point of the season . He only needs a couple of goals to get his season up and running .
 

Keith S30S said:
So you're about to sign a player, it falls through at the last minute but you've already told another agent you want to sign his player when you don't but you might if the other deals falls through even though you didn't expect it to...

Sounds plausible 😂
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You really have no idea how it works like so fair play to you.
 
halfpast3 said:
You really have no idea how it works like so fair play to you.
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Neither do you obviously.

I would imagine every transfer is different. Some are fairly straight forward and others not so.

That's why medicals get done at the other end of the country or even in another country because of the short notice of the deals especially around deadline day. Not exactly your scenario of every one being clued up is it?
 
Keith S30S said:
Normal people don't seem to be able to grasp the money footballers earn.

Clarke had already had a big move to Spurs, pocketed about a 10% signing on fee of a £1M, then 3 years wages at about £1M per season.

He would have been getting about £500K a season here for a couple of years here.

So basically he's had about £5M, less 40% tax so £3M through his hands.

He didn't need a big money move unless he has gambling issues. He'd already had more money than most people earn in 2 lifetimes and was still earning about £750K a year after a recent rise.

I would put my happiness and well being ahead of money but it takes all sorts...
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That's because you are like most of us on here and would play at professional level for peanuts.
We are fans ,it's not our job ,so we can't imagine not making decisions based on what's best for ourselves and families in the long run. It's usually a very short career.
That's not to say I think Ipswich was the right move for him .
 
Keith S30S said:
Normal people don't seem to be able to grasp the money footballers earn.

Clarke had already had a big move to Spurs, pocketed about a 10% signing on fee of a £1M, then 3 years wages at about £1M per season.

He would have been getting about £500K a season here for a couple of years here.

So basically he's had about £5M, less 40% tax so £3M through his hands.

He didn't need a big money move unless he has gambling issues. He'd already had more money than most people earn in 2 lifetimes and was still earning about £750K a year after a recent rise.

I would put my happiness and well being ahead of money but it takes all sorts...
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As people like me and you will never get offered that money we can't really say for certain what we'd do.
 
nz joe said:
That's because you are like most of us on here and would play at professional level for peanuts.
We are fans ,it's not our job ,so we can't imagine not making decisions based on what's best for ourselves and families in the long run. It's usually a very short career.
That's not to say I think Ipswich was the right move for him .
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No, I would play for what I'm worth but I wouldn't be bullied into a decision by an agent (not saying Clarke was?) I would make decisions based on what was the best for my career not just for more money in the short term. I would see the bigger picture.

When I worked in a non salaried job I worked what I fancied over time wise depending on my circumstances. Very rarely worked through the week, not my thing. Some worked pretty much every thing that was on offer. I thought they were greedy but there you go. Different stokes for different folks.
Qwerty said:
As people like me and you will never get offered that money we can't really say for certain what we'd do.
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I'm an awkward bastard and know my own mind. I wouldn't make decisions based on money when I was already rich.

Some people would do it for one upmanship. That would never cross my mind.
 
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Keith S30S said:
You spent £10M in the 1st division!

Just the £120M this season and you're bottom 3 behind Leicester who've just sacked their manager.

Is that the Spurs game you only had 33% possession, 3 shots on target and didn't really deserve to win? 😂

Long winter if you can't win games...
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10m in the first division? You’ve just made that up. Good stuff.

When we were excellent against Villa and deserved to win, you replied saying we failed to win and the result was all that matters. Then we beat spurs but it doesn’t count because we didn’t batter them.

A bit like how we didn’t deserve to go up last year because loads of our goals were scored in injury time.

Terrific stuff
chopsfc007 said:
Why are you even on here
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Posted on here since we were both in league 1 and then stayed even after yous got promoted. Have a lot of time for Sunderland. Hope yous come up.
Dexter said:
They completely outplayed Tottenham in the first half and deservedly won. Only when Spurs went hung ho in the second half did they look like getting anything from the game. This post reeks of bitterness.
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Glad someone on your side watched the game. If I would have said as much, he’d have just said I was bias. Which is ironic seeing as he had a huge issue with us for whatever reason.

My Spurs mate thought a draw would have been all they deserved. We were both at the game in differing ends obviously and his view of it was that we were better first half and deservingly ahead whereas they pushed on second half and possibly deserved an equaliser but that he had no complaints.
ATS said:
It's more that Jack Clarke dared to leave us for a club, in his eyes, who are inferior to us. But in his eyes everyone is inferior to us. He is the most biased SAFC fan on here by a mile and won't have a word said against us no matter what. He's desperate for Ipswich, and therefore Clarke to fail just because he didn't stay at SAFC. And I know you'll laugh at this @Keith S30S but that doesn't make it untrue.
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I think I’ve realised it from his ‘10m in division one’ comment. Which is blatantly not true but he’s read somewhere we spent big and hates that part. He wanted us to fail last year and was adamant we were nowhere near an automatic promotion side.

So now is desperate for us to come down so he can give it the whole ‘I told you so’ as if most promoted clubs (especially one who were league 1 two seasons ago) stay up comfortably anyway.

It’s a shame as most of your fans have always been very fair and balance imo (hence me posting on here. Only other forum bar our own i have an account on).
 
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Keith S30S said:
Not a relegation favourite. Any of the other 17 teams who didn't just get promoted.
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You realise out of the 120 ish days so far of the season, we’ve only been in the bottom 3 for about 5 of them?

And that 5 defeats in 12 (Liverpool and City amongst those) isn’t exactly getting smashed week in week out.

And deserved results against Man U and Villa at home and points at Brighton and Spurs away against is not bad.

The way you speak is as if we’re certainties to go down? I understand you would like that to happen but as an Ipswich fan, I’m telling you we’ve shown enough to suggest we will compete this year and that we can stay up.
 
IpswichFanInPeace said:
You realise out of the 120 ish days so far of the season, we’ve only been in the bottom 3 for about 5 of them?

And that 5 defeats in 12 (Liverpool and City amongst those) isn’t exactly getting smashed week in week out.

And deserved results against Man U and Villa at home and points at Brighton and Spurs away against is not bad.

The way you speak is as if we’re certainties to go down? I understand you would like that to happen but as an Ipswich fan, I’m telling you we’ve shown enough to suggest we will compete this year and that we can stay up.
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I think most posters on here think he took a fair enough move to have a swing at the Premier. The poster you’re replying to seems utterly convinced it was a bad move for reasons
 
woodlebert said:
I think most posters on here think he took a fair enough move to have a swing at the Premier. The poster you’re replying to seems utterly convinced it was a bad move for reasons
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I honestly believe if he’d moved to Southampton or Leicester, the poster in question would have no issue.

I remember when we were doing well around Christmas in the Championship last year him being adamant we were bang average and despite showing him multiple stats as to why we were in fact deservingly top 2 at that point, he would not have it at all based on seeing us play on sky a couple of times (ironically both being games we’d won).
 
dcl0sc said:
really? who's his agent then?
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SMI SPORTS MANAGEMENT INTERNATIONAL

Harte is just a scout. Harte gets so much shit for this when actually he is the bottom rung of the ladder.
People are like sheep on here. Someone spouts shit, EVERYONE believes is.

If people are still raging about the deal in which we got 20 million for, then ring up the fella who is the main man. Ian Harte really is nothing in the main frame of things.
Probably taxi driver and bag man for the deal.

Lee Matthews (Owner)
Tel.: 07841997204
Email : [email protected]
 
Reilhan said:
Would love to see some of the posters on here set up as an agent :lol:

Clarke: "Have you arranged that move to a Premier League club on a multi-million pound contract?"

Agent: "Not yet but Nissan told me you can have an apprenticeship when your career ends."
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Your job as an agent is to get the best deal(s) for your player.

However, IMO then you should take a fairly impartial view and let the player decide. If he was struggling you could offer your guidance.

You should not merely do what is in your own best interest.

I wouldn't know how many agents do any of the above.
 
Keith S30S said:
Aye, made a dream move, 20 minutes here and there for a team 3rd bottom.

A PFA pension at 35.

You must be logged on to see external links

Obviously all the experts on here think footballers have normal jobs 😂
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So how much pension would Jack Clarke expect to get at 35 and based on what? I don't see it on the link you posted, but suspect it probably nothing or next to nothing at 35 from the perspective of a premier league footballer.
 
halfpast3 said:
Of course it isn’t but he had no other proper premier league offer did he so it isn’t a choice to make, you’re making up stuff in your own head. The spurs situation is no where near the same he was much younger as a starting point and he wasn’t even getting on the bench. So what should he have done
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If he had no other proper offer what does that tell you.
 
woodlebert said:
Officially it’s a chap called Lee Matthews. His name will be on the contracts

Harte is an advisor to the company. Will likely advise players as an ex-pro. He seems to be linked closely to Harte of course, but he isn’t his agent
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Also an ex-player who came through at Leeds around the same time as Harte.
 
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