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Jack Clarke


Harte will want as much money for himself and his client. Nowt we can do about that it’s the way of the world.
 
nz joe said:
That's because you are like most of us on here and would play at professional level for peanuts.
We are fans ,it's not our job ,so we can't imagine not making decisions based on what's best for ourselves and families in the long run. It's usually a very short career.
That's not to say I think Ipswich was the right move for him .
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A "very short career" in which a lot of them earn many many more times than any of us could earn in 10 lifetimes.

The sad thing is that most of them lose touch with reality and greed inevitably kicks in.
 
dave hedgehog said:
Complete passenger in that team. No where near as capable as some on here think. Top end championship with team built around and he looks decent. Always thought he didnt have enough in the locker for top flight
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Disagree

Look at his positioning off the ball. He's being told by mcKenna to play a completely different way.

He's very narrow and playing almost as an inside forward. I blame the manager not Clarke.
 
Unlucky Black Cat said:
A "very short career" in which a lot of them earn many many more times than any of us could earn in 10 lifetimes.

The sad thing is that most of them lose touch with reality and greed inevitably kicks in.
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Give me any means and I’ll show you how to live beyond it.

I’m sure for some footballers it’s largely the same, so they just chase more money in the hope that it’s ’enough’
 
Banks said:
Disagree

Look at his positioning off the ball. He's being told by mcKenna to play a completely different way.

He's very narrow and playing almost as an inside forward. I blame the manager not Clarke.
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Everyone knew that and still knows it

He went there knowing it

Just yesterday he said he was still learning to play that way

It's December and he's started maybe 6 times.

So the rest of the season will be learning to play that way in occasional appearances

Still, plenty on this forum think stalling an entire career (again in his case) was worth it for one season of higher wages
 
AmblerThorn said:
Everyone knew that and still knows it

He went there knowing it

Just yesterday he said he was still learning to play that way

It's December and he's started maybe 6 times.

So the rest of the season will be learning to play that way in occasional appearances

Still, plenty on this forum think stalling an entire career (again in his case) was worth it for one season of higher wages
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Stalling an entire career?

The fact is that the majority of players do not win trophies during their career. Where do you think his career was heading if he stayed with us.

Day to day he trains at Ipswich much as he would elsewhere. He plays less for the team, they get beat as much as we did last season and he has a contract worth multiples of what he had with us.

Clarke will find his niche in football and won’t regret leaving any particular club - Leeds, Spurs, Sunderland or Ipswich when his time is up.
 
Arkle said:
He might be the classic too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premier League type player until he finds the correct club.
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Players are much slower in the championship imo.
So for a couple of years we’ve just kept giving him the ball and he’s almost wandered up the pitch with nobody able to get it off him.
That’s the way we’ve played.
Plus his goals were almost all identical! - cut in cut in cut in then blast it top bins 🗑️
I’m not complaining about any of that but I always thought you need a few more strings to your bow to succeed in the top flight.

None of that is a criticism of him, I love the lad.
 
Gloucester said:
Stalling an entire career?

The fact is that the majority of players do not win trophies during their career. Where do you think his career was heading if he stayed with us.

Day to day he trains at Ipswich much as he would elsewhere. He plays less for the team, they get beat as much as we did last season and he has a contract worth multiples of what he had with us.

Clarke will find his niche in football and won’t regret leaving any particular club - Leeds, Spurs, Sunderland or Ipswich when his time is up.
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That bit just isn’t true is it though
 
Gloucester said:
Stalling an entire career?

The fact is that the majority of players do not win trophies during their career. Where do you think his career was heading if he stayed with us.

Day to day he trains at Ipswich much as he would elsewhere. He plays less for the team, they get beat as much as we did last season and he has a contract worth multiples of what he had with us.

Clarke will find his niche in football and won’t regret leaving any particular club - Leeds, Spurs, Sunderland or Ipswich when his time is up.
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Yes stalled his career. Again

Bizarre football forum that celebrates stalled careers

Like a form of self loathing this place

Do it for the money Jack. What a hero he is for leaving Sunderland to be a flop again

He found a niche at Sunderland. Could have waited until the right club came along with the right manager playing the right system *for him*

He'll be 25 next season. He won't be playing regularly in the PL this season and potentially ever

Brilliant stuff. Love to see it
 
Banks said:
Disagree

Look at his positioning off the ball. He's being told by mcKenna to play a completely different way.

He's very narrow and playing almost as an inside forward. I blame the manager not Clarke.
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That’s exactly what I’ve seen when I’ve watched Ipswich. Inside forward and he looks absolutely lost. He seems to be a confidence player devoid of any atm.
 
Tbf I really have to question ipswich scouting. It’s been noticeable since his first appearance they are using him wrong. The lad should be hugging the touchline trying to beat defenders, not constantly stuck inside
 
Last season he scored 15 goals and recorded 4 assists in 40 games and of those 15 goals, 5 were penalties. He averaged 1 non pen goal every 4 games and 1 assist every 10 games.

Now even taking looking at the underlying data (using FBRef):

Last season (his best season to date) he was putting up numbers of 0.19 NPxG per 90 and 0.24 xAG per 90 - TOTAL 0.43 NPxG+xA per 90.

The step up to the PL meant those number had to increase by quite a margin to be successful, especially when playing for one of the weaker teams in the league.

He will very likely be back down in The Championship next season, which might actually be his level, unless he kicks on and improves on those numbers, above.

Obviously Ipswich knew this, and gambled on him either making an improvement on these numbers due to his age, and then if they stayed up, he'd be a saleable asset or someone they'd build on, or if they go down, they have someone who is good at this level.

There's over 10 players in this division, currently recording more than 0.43 NPxG+xA per 90, who have played over 1,000 minutes so far. And some of those players are even recording much higher data, in the region of 0.60-0.76 NPxG+xA per 90.

And there were many more players (wingers/midfielders) last season who recorded more than 0.43 NPxG+xA per 90.

So even if he ends up back in this league, for him to be regarded as one of the best players in the league, then his data would need to improve by quite some margin.

He's currently 24, so he has some scope to do so.
 
Qwerty said:
Scary that our best player when he was here can't cut it in the PL.
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The gap is massive
AmblerThorn said:
Everyone knew that and still knows it

He went there knowing it

Just yesterday he said he was still learning to play that way

It's December and he's started maybe 6 times.

So the rest of the season will be learning to play that way in occasional appearances

Still, plenty on this forum think stalling an entire career (again in his case) was worth it for one season of higher wages
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Won't be one season at higher wages it will be one contact and one premier season, can't blame him.
 
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Marvanelli said:
Last season he scored 15 goals and recorded 4 assists in 40 games and of those 15 goals, 5 were penalties. He averaged 1 non pen goal every 4 games and 1 assist every 10 games.

Now even taking looking at the underlying data (using FBRef):

Last season (his best season to date) he was putting up numbers of 0.19 NPxG per 90 and 0.24 xAG per 90 - TOTAL 0.43 NPxG+xA per 90.

The step up to the PL meant those number had to increase by quite a margin to be successful, especially when playing for one of the weaker teams in the league.

He will very likely be back down in The Championship next season, which might actually be his level, unless he kicks on and improves on those numbers, above.

Obviously Ipswich knew this, and gambled on him either making an improvement on these numbers due to his age, and then if they stayed up, he'd be a saleable asset or someone they'd build on, or if they go down, they have someone who is good at this level.

There's over 10 players in this division, currently recording more than 0.43 NPxG+xA per 90, who have played over 1,000 minutes so far. And some of those players are even recording much higher data, in the region of 0.60-0.76 NPxG+xA per 90.

And there were many more players (wingers/midfielders) last season who recorded more than 0.43 NPxG+xA per 90.

So even if he ends up back in this league, for him to be regarded as one of the best players in the league, then his data would need to improve by quite some margin.

He's currently 24, so he has some scope to do so.
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He was shite after his injury last season. But your not allowed to say that on here.
 
Arkle said:
He might be the classic too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premier League type player until he finds the correct club.
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He’s a one trick pony, but it’s a very good trick, plenty like him in prem but it’s not how he’s being played.
Reminder to many players in championship that you are better playing in a team and position you are familiar when you first get to the prem
 
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