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They formed the FA in the one at Covent Garden anarl....Loads of masons get out on the district line at bow
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They formed the FA in the one at Covent Garden anarl....Loads of masons get out on the district line at bow
I would be interested to see the number of top flight referees who aren't masons, or England managers.They formed the FA in the one at Covent Garden anarl....
Total nonsense mateI'd love to join. I understand that my great grandfather was pretty high up in the society, but then my grandfather and farther are catholic's so can't join.
Catenians mate.I'd love to join. I understand that my great grandfather was pretty high up in the society, but then my grandfather and farther are catholic's so can't join.
Total nonsense mate
No its not, the catholic church forbids it. Or at least that's what my Dad told me.
I see, the masons wouldn't have any problem with it though.No its not, the catholic church forbids it. Or at least that's what my Dad told me.
so the church... not the freemasons.
maybe they are worried about losing the power over you
what a load of tosh.
from catholic.com
Full Question
What is the Catholic Church's official position on Freemasonry? Are Catholics free to become Freemasons?
Answer
Freemasonry is incompatible with the Catholic faith. Freemasonry teaches a naturalistic religion that espouses indifferentism, the position that a person can be equally pleasing to God while remaining in any religion.
Masonry is a parallel religion to Christianity. The New Catholic Encyclopedia states, "Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward or punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiation and burial rites."
Masonry is also a secret society. Its initiates subscribe to secret blood oaths that are contrary to Christian morals. The prospective Mason swears that if he ever reveals the secrets of Masonry - secrets which are trivial and already well-known - he wills to be subject to self-mutilation or to gruesome execution. (Most Masons, admittedly, never would dream of carrying out these punishments on themselves or on an errant member).
Historically, one of Masonry's primary objectives has been the destruction of the Catholic Church; this is especially true of Freemasonry as it has existed in certain European countries. In the United States, Freemasonry is often little more than a social club, but it still espouses a naturalistic religion that contradicts orthodox Christianity. (Those interested in joining a men's club should consider the Knights of Columbus instead.)
The Church has imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics who become Freemasons. The penalty of excommunication for joining the Masonic Lodge was explicit in the 1917 code of canon law (canon 2335), and it is implicit in the 1983 code (canon 1374).
Because the revised code of canon law is not explicit on this point, some drew the mistaken conclusion that the Church's prohibition of Freemasonry had been dropped. As a result of this confusion, shortly before the 1983 code was promulgated, the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a statement indicating that the penalty was still in force. This statement was dated November 26, 1983 and may be found in Origins 13/27 (Nov. 15, 1983), 450.
I wouldnt want to join a lodge that would take the likes of me.
I see, the masons wouldn't have any problem with it though.
so the church... not the freemasons.
maybe they are worried about losing the power over you
what a load of tosh.
from catholic.com
Full Question
What is the Catholic Church's official position on Freemasonry? Are Catholics free to become Freemasons?
Answer
Freemasonry is incompatible with the Catholic faith. Freemasonry teaches a naturalistic religion that espouses indifferentism, the position that a person can be equally pleasing to God while remaining in any religion.
Masonry is a parallel religion to Christianity. The New Catholic Encyclopedia states, "Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward or punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiation and burial rites."
Masonry is also a secret society. Its initiates subscribe to secret blood oaths that are contrary to Christian morals. The prospective Mason swears that if he ever reveals the secrets of Masonry - secrets which are trivial and already well-known - he wills to be subject to self-mutilation or to gruesome execution. (Most Masons, admittedly, never would dream of carrying out these punishments on themselves or on an errant member).
Historically, one of Masonry's primary objectives has been the destruction of the Catholic Church; this is especially true of Freemasonry as it has existed in certain European countries. In the United States, Freemasonry is often little more than a social club.
i am a roman catholic and inI'd love to join. I understand that my great grandfather was pretty high up in the society, but then my grandfather and farther are catholic's so can't join.
Get yerself on mumsnet petal, this is blokes talk.Worra load of shit ! .
Do you seriously fancy?So do I funnily enough, also sound but will be called a pig nonce from now on.
Ps. @martinlumley woildnt mind joining like in all seriousness