Home Schooling

[Medulla]

Surprised so many on here are against it, I have to say on reflection my schooling was poor and I reckon if the parent is well prepared and feels like they can do a better job it's a good idea.

Is it fuck man.

 

[Kent_Mackem]

Their home schooling is a big problem though. The real radgies' schools have been found to be teaching a predominantly religious education. All home (and by extension, small group) schooling needs to be subject to regular checks.

I'm not sure if everything going back to LA control is feasible these days but there doesn't seem to be anyone directly accountable for this kind of education outside of LA control. Imo there needs to be.

That in a nutshell is the problem. However there’s another issue that is perhaps not appreciated by all. Once a child leaves the LA education system it takes time for them to be picked up again, particularly if they change address at the same time. Several travellers for example unwittingly are several steps ahead of the authorities and some of their kids never go to school. Other children are vulnerable to neglect, abuse or lack of education because their parents don’t have the mental, social, intellectual capacity or motivation to care for them. They can escape checks and safeguarding procedures by slipping through the net. The next tragedy is always just around the corner.

 

[daveyc]

Everyone, and I mean everyone I've ever come across in my professional capacity, that has been home schooled, has been; parent-dependent, isolated, socially inept, unqualified, awkward.

 

[Notorious Decka]

Millie Bobby Brown, the lass from Stranger Things was home schooled. Seen her in an interview and she said something along the lines of "I couldn't think of anything worse" when asked if she would have liked to go to a 'normal' school.

 

[Father Jack Hackett]

Their bairns will have no mates or social skills

 

[KittenMittens]

Kids need to see the world, for better or worse.

 

[Keawyeds]

couple where I live took their two kids out of our local school because the kids had been learning about different religions and the school planned a trip to a religious museum

f***ing couple of doyles, always posting pictures of work they are doing at home and educational trips away to places such as Beamish and Seaton etc.

They have stated that the council education officer visits them and they are over the moon.

Parents say the kids were being brainwashed and at home they won’t get bullied etc etc as they are homeschooled.

Any opinions on this? I think it stinks and that the parents are clearly racist bigots.

Kids will be monumentally fucked when they enter the real world.

 

[defunctdigits]

Maybe home schooling could be run along same lines as open uni. Apparently some countries already use technology for kids' home education. Might even save the tax payer a few quid and schools and grounds could be flogged off.

 

[Keawyeds]

Maybe home schooling could be run along same lines as open uni. Apparently some countries already use technology for kids' home education. Might even save the tax payer a few quid and schools and grounds could be flogged off.

Does sod all for their socialisation and discipline does it.

 

[Pop]

Millie Bobby Brown, the lass from Stranger Things was home schooled. Seen her in an interview and she said something along the lines of "I couldn't think of anything worse" when asked if she would have liked to go to a 'normal' school.

Loads of young actors/actresses are home schooled. Possibly a contributing factor as to why so many of them are totally insane.

 

[The Muffin Man]

Everyone, and I mean everyone I've ever come across in my professional capacity, that has been home schooled, has been; parent-dependent, isolated, socially inept, unqualified, awkward.

100% this, fucked up parents projecting their own social anxiety and problems on their children...They fuck up their kids so they cant cope in social situations like school.....Instead of finding ways to help them they withdraw them and isolate them in a home school environment where they tend to do very little in the way of learning. Its more about being out of the school environment than them actually learning anything (in most cases) and as they are not checked by any outside authority the majority of kids end up with no qualifications etc. While I am not a fan of the formal education system in this country and would massively change the curriculum, withdrawing your children into their own home and isolating them away from other kids is not the answer.

Does it also include education about atheism and humanism to truly counterbalance things?

With regard to home schooling, a colleague of mine and his wife (well, primarily his wife) were doing this but stopped as they were finding the social side of it difficult. As mentioned, there are networks of home schoolers so the kids get to interact with other kids but they found them unreliable (people cancelling at short notice etc.).

Humanism and atheism yes, Scientology no.

The owld Muslim radgies will be ower the moon with their kids learning about Christianity.

Given then number of muslim kids in St Anthonys/St Aidens, its clearly not an issue.

 

[defunctdigits]

Does sod all for their socialisation and discipline does it.

I never claimed it would, but maybe we (kids) aren't naturally gregarious at all and forcing children to behave as such is just wrong. The world went around before national education, and some very influential people have achieved great things without school. One size does not fit all. I believe home schooling has grown significantly in recent years so obviously a lot of people are happy to try it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but I have an open mind about it.

 

[The Muffin Man]

The owld Muslim radgies will be ower the moon with their kids learning about Christianity.

I never claimed it would, but maybe we (kids) aren't naturally gregarious at all and forcing children to behave as such is just wrong. The world went around before national education, and some very influential people have achieved great things without school. One size does not fit all. I believe home schooling has grown significantly in recent years so obviously a lot of people are happy to try it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but I have an open mind about it.

You are right and at that time very few children were ever taught to read and they were up chimneys and working in factories by the age of 8 or 9. Many kids who are homes schooled are not schooled at all, that is the problem.

 

[Lewberry pie]

The only issue I have with schools is the pressure on teachers and therefore the kids, the obsession is with getting better and better and that's great but kids especially need to catch their breath sometimes to be hormonal little shits or to overcome problems outside of school. Currently we have kids growing up with no trauma but big metal health and self esteem problems, so we make apps to help them core with us putting unneeded pressure on them, when we could actually just not work then to the point of being miserable with school and homework.

 

[defunctdigits]

You are right and at that time very few children were ever taught to read and they were up chimneys and working in factories by the age of 8 or 9. Many kids who are homes schooled are not schooled at all, that is the problem.

So like I suggested initially, it could be made more formal along the lines of the OU.

 

[ivanthereasonable]

couple where I live took their two kids out of our local school because the kids had been learning about different religions and the school planned a trip to a religious museum

f***ing couple of doyles, always posting pictures of work they are doing at home and educational trips away to places such as Beamish and Seaton etc.

They have stated that the council education officer visits them and they are over the moon.

Parents say the kids were being brainwashed and at home they won’t get bullied etc etc as they are homeschooled.

Any opinions on this? I think it stinks and that the parents are clearly racist bigots.

I was nodding at parts of this till you got to the racist bigots.

I agree with the sheltering point, but the teachers equally shelter the kids from it if we are being fair.

They pretend that religions are all lovely, tolerant groups of the most trustworthy and noble people in society.

They don't mention the fact that the christian god says if your gay you go to hell and allah wants you to kill people and in return you get 72 virgins to party with.

Growing up I literally assumed the bible was true, I thought as a child thats how the world worked and then I read it and luckily thought this is a crock of shit full of inconsistencies but some people read those books and never look back.

Genuine question, why did you assume it was true ? Were your parents into religion ? Just comparing it to my experience. Religion was never mentioned in our house, which i take to be the main reason i didn't give it any credit. I should thank them for that, though i doubt it was an intentional thing on their part. Poor working class large family, parents had enough on their hands paying the rent and feeding us.

 

[The King of Um]

Millie Bobby Brown, the lass from Stranger Things was home schooled. Seen her in an interview and she said something along the lines of "I couldn't think of anything worse" when asked if she would have liked to go to a 'normal' school.

Not sure that someone who started her TV acting career at the age of nine is a great representative example.

 

[The Muffin Man]

So like I suggested initially, it could be made more formal along the lines of the OU.

Something like OU assumes a certain level of reading......There are loads of homeschooling websites etc, problem is you dont have the trained professionals there who have spent their entire lives training to teach people to read etc. Clearly its not impossible but it would take a massive commitment by parents to have their kids learning effectively. My experience is that few of those who "home school" their children have this commitment or indeed ability.

 

[defunctdigits]

Something like OU assumes a certain level of reading......There are loads of homeschooling websites etc, problem is you dont have the trained professionals there who have spent their entire lives training to teach people to read etc. Clearly its not impossible but it would take a massive commitment by parents to have their kids learning effectively. My experience is that few of those who "home school" their children have this commitment or indeed ability.

So what are you claiming; that tens of thousands of parents are so dissatisfied with formal education that they would rather not have their children educated at all. I find that difficult to accept without some kind of proof and, so far as I'm aware, home schooling is predominantly carried out by parents with a good education. Of course to formalise home schooling so that it could be policed would require political intervention and, in light of your claims, maybe some urgency should be employed to that end. Distance learning also works perfectly well in many isolated parts of the world which I see as another positive outcome of home schooling.

 

[The Muffin Man]

So what are you claiming; that tens of thousands of parents are so dissatisfied with formal education that they would rather not have their children educated at all. I find that difficult to accept without some kind of proof and, so far as I'm aware, home schooling is predominantly carried out by parents with a good education. Of course to formalise home schooling so that it could be policed would require political intervention and, in light of your claims, maybe some urgency should be employed to that end. Distance learning also works perfectly well in many isolated parts of the world which I see as another positive outcome of home schooling.

Mate, most kids who are taken out of school to be "home schooled" are actually taken out of school because their kids are school refusers and they dont want to get done by the local authorities for failing to send their kids to school.

Political intervention is indeed required to ensure these kids are actually being educated and not just being taken out of school.....I have spent much of my professional life watching this happening and in the last few years it has risen dramatically in this area.

I have no issue with them not being educated to take formal examinations but the absolute basics of reading and writing/maths must be taught if the kids are to have any kind of future.