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A 3600 is overkill for the level of gaming he's after. The brand new i310400 will do exactly the same job but for half the price.




Banks said:
Having a GPU or CPU much better than the other is a waste of money.
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Let's go back to the start for 1 sentence - I paid £649. That's just £150 more than the fruitloop who advertised a website selling a system with a 1050ti for £500.
Secondly - An 3600 costs £180 - Operating system - £100 - Why did I buy an OS? Because my old system was so old it couldn't run windows 10, and the sad thing is it was the exact same system advertised above, imagine that.
So already I've got my hands tied as I've only got £370 left for GPU, 16gb Ram, fans, motherboard, PSU, SSD, case

And here I already knew 80% of PC games run on the CPU, AAA titles which run on the GPU rarely happen.. Far Cry 5 was the last and that was over 2 years ago so even now I know blowing my load on the memory and chip was 100% the correct decision and forever will be, until a AAA title which pops up which runs on the GPU which isn't in the foreseeable future.
 
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Wylie Coyote said:
Football manager, watching porn, internet, bairns school work and id like to get into pc gaming although i think id mainly play older games from gog / steam etc

Id prefer to get something that is gonna last a long time and dont mind getting something thats much better than what i need as that might mean i start using it as main gaming platform. Can probs go to about 1/1.2k

I have zero PC knowledge so no matter what im spending i need advise to make sure i get value for money
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As @Scotty said pretty much anything you can find will play this. You can probably half yer budget and get a decent machine still - the lads here will advise as they’re more into the gaming side! Tip, dont listen to @coyneeee mind - he seems to be smoking some sort of crack :lol:
coyneeee said:
A 3600 is overkill for the level of gaming he's after. The brand new i310400 will do exactly the same job but for half the price.






Let's go back to the start for 1 sentence - I paid £649. That's just £150 more than the fruitloop who advertised a website selling a system with a 1050ti for £500.
Secondly - An 3600 costs £180 - Operating system - £100 - Why did I buy an OS? Because my old system was so old it couldn't run windows 10, and the sad thing is it was the exact same system advertised above, imagine that.
So already I've got my hands tied as I've only got £370 left for GPU, 16gb Ram, fans, motherboard, PSU, SSD, case

And here I already knew 80% of PC games run on the CPU, AAA titles which run on the GPU rarely happen.. Far Cry 5 was the last and that was over 2 years ago so even now I know blowing my load on the memory and chip was 100% the correct decision and forever will be, until a AAA title which pops up which runs on the GPU which isn't in the foreseeable future.
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Let‘s make this nice and simple for you. YOU CAN NOT PLAY AAA GAMES @4K without turning EVERYTHING OFF! Or dropping to a lower res.

You’re talking in riddles :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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coyneeee said:
A 3600 is overkill for the level of gaming he's after. The brand new i310400 will do exactly the same job but for half the price.






Let's go back to the start for 1 sentence - I paid £649. That's just £150 more than the fruitloop who advertised a website selling a system with a 1050ti for £500.
Secondly - An 3600 costs £180 - Operating system - £100 - Why did I buy an OS? Because my old system was so old it couldn't run windows 10, and the sad thing is it was the exact same system advertised above, imagine that.
So already I've got my hands tied as I've only got £370 left for GPU, 16gb Ram, fans, motherboard, PSU, SSD, case

And here I already knew 80% of PC games run on the CPU, AAA titles which run on the GPU rarely happen.. Far Cry 5 was the last and that was over 2 years ago so even now I know blowing my load on the memory and chip was 100% the correct decision and forever will be, until a AAA title which pops up which runs on the GPU which isn't in the foreseeable future.
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Got no idea why you are being so insecure about this. It's a thread to help someone buy the right parts for their budget. Why you want someone with poor knowledge of computers to waste money is beyond me.

The i5 10400 is again bad advice as you need an expensive motherboard to get the best from it.

Plus the 3600 was priced at 150 when I bought mine obviously prices may have gone up.

But the 3600 is such a good buy because it can be paired with a cheap motherboard. Any going budget should be going AMD not intel
 
Banks said:
The i5 10400 is again bad advice as you need an expensive motherboard to get the best from it.
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Who said anything about the i510400?

I said the i310400.... The newest and cheapest budget gaming chip on the market...

I feel sorry for Coyote trying to take advice from 2 idiots. It's actually gonna cost him money.
 
Wylie Coyote said:
Football manager, watching porn, internet, bairns school work and id like to get into pc gaming although i think id mainly play older games from gog / steam etc

Id prefer to get something that is gonna last a long time and dont mind getting something thats much better than what i need as that might mean i start using it as main gaming platform. Can probs go to about 1/1.2k

I have zero PC knowledge so no matter what im spending i need advise to make sure i get value for money
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Is that 1k for everything or just the actual pc?
 
coyneeee said:
His exact specification was ability to play FM on lots of leagues, and not arsed about high end graphics. It's the perfect chip for it.
Meanwhile you're advising a chip double the price, you're an actual idiot.

Atleast when people come looking into this thread and see 2 absolute clueless idiots trying to give out advice it'll have saved them money so I've done my bit.
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He can do that without a graphics card so why have you recommended the 1650?

You don't build a pc that needs replacing 2 years later.

The i3 isn't all that. The 3100 is slightly worse but cheaper and the 3300x is much better than it but it's set at an inflated price at the min.

Graphic cards can be replaced with ease CPU and motherboards can't. You should always get as good a CPU you can. The 3600 isn't over kill it's a stsndard middle of the road CPU.

If you want to replace the CPU after 3 years then yeah go for the i3
 
can i just point out..

the 10100 is'nt the newest or cheapest budget cpu - Its still roughly £110, which is firmly in the 3100, 3300x, 1600af price range

i assume @coyneeee is really talking about the 10100F which is'nt released yet but will come in at about £70

so no integrated GPU (although that goes for the Ryzen offerings), but probably more importantly cheapo H410 LGA1200 motherboards are more expensive by about £10-20 than a B450

LGA1200 is looking like a deadend socket already, whilst B450 will be Ryzen 5000 compatible

sorry, but its still a big fat yes for Ryzen over Intel IMO
 
Scotty said:
can i just point out..

the 10100 is'nt the newest or cheapest budget cpu - Its still roughly £110, which is firmly in the 3100, 3300x, 1600af price range

i assume @coyneeee is really talking about the 10100F which is'nt released yet but will come in at about £70

so no integrated GPU (although that goes for the Ryzen offerings), but probably more importantly cheapo H410 LGA1200 motherboards are more expensive by about £10-20 than a B450

LGA1200 is looking like a deadend socket already, whilst B450 will be Ryzen 5000 compatible

sorry, but its still a big fat yes for Ryzen over Intel IMO
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Absolutely! I focused on the guy's specifications which was FM, older games, not arsed about high end graphics. It's literally the only intel chip which is acceptable, it's looking like it'll shit all over 3100 and 3330X, it becomes a case whether the next-gen titles will support 4 core gaming with the new consoles being all beefed up, if it does then value for money will be insane.

I would never ever recommend a 6 core and higher intel chip over AMD.
 
Wylie Coyote said:
I havea monitor etc but its all about a decade old, its all still ok i suppose so depends how much of a better pc i could get without including the other stuff
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This is pretty decent and leaves you some cash to upgrade or buy a new monitor if you want.Personally with this I would upgrade the ram to 3600mhz and maybe change the cpu to a ryzen 3600.
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Pseudonym Number 1 said:
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AWD MB520 ARGB Ryzen 7 2700X Nvidia GTX 1660 Super 16GB RAM Desktop PC

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This is pretty decent and leaves you some cash to upgrade or buy a new monitor if you want.Personally with this I would upgrade the ram to 3600mhz and maybe change the cpu to a ryzen 3600.
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its a very good deal. I'd probably swap out the 2700x for the 3600 (+£10) - 8 cores vs 6, but i reckon the IPC gains for the 3600 tip the balance

I'd also probably hunt out some reviews of the motherboards being offered, did'nt Asus have some VRM issues with their B450's??
 
Scotty said:
its a very good deal. I'd probably swap out the 2700x for the 3600 (+£10) - 8 cores vs 6, but i reckon the IPC gains for the 3600 tip the balance

I'd also probably hunt out some reviews of the motherboards being offered, did'nt Asus have some VRM issues with their B450's??
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Idk, but you can upgrade to the tomahawk for an extra £35 and that probably the best B450 board available.
 
Scotty said:
its a very good deal. I'd probably swap out the 2700x for the 3600 (+£10) - 8 cores vs 6, but i reckon the IPC gains for the 3600 tip the balance

I'd also probably hunt out some reviews of the motherboards being offered, did'nt Asus have some VRM issues with their B450's??
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Id also add 35 quid to go for a gold certified psu, excellent pc for sub 700 pounds
 
coyneeee said:
Absolutely! I focused on the guy's specifications which was FM, older games, not arsed about high end graphics. It's literally the only intel chip which is acceptable, it's looking like it'll shit all over 3100 and 3330X, it becomes a case whether the next-gen titles will support 4 core gaming with the new consoles being all beefed up, if it does then value for money will be insane.

I would never ever recommend a 6 core and higher intel chip over AMD.
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next gen consoles are all powered by AMD chips & arcitecture so future titles will be better optomised for AMD
 
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