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Twisted said:
two of them are under contract, one of them didn't sign the contract we offered him. pretty simple really
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I'm not about terminating the contracts. I'm saying we weren't prepared to pay our second t20 batsman of 2019 what he wanted.

While happy to waste our wages elsewhere on players who have offered absolutely nothing. One for 2 seasons now.
 
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Burnham and Coughlin. Hmm, my patience with them is getting short. They're both have people who believe in them, they both have talent and yet they both disappoint. Coggers is 28 with 89 first class wickets. Burnham will be 24 in a few months and he has a lower first class average than Paul Coughlin!

Sad to say but it's not looking good fir either of them.
 
Bri said:
Burnham and Coughlin. Hmm, my patience with them is getting short. They're both have people who believe in them, they both have talent and yet they both disappoint. Coggers is 28 with 89 first class wickets. Burnham will be 24 in a few months and he has a lower first class average than Paul Coughlin!

Sad to say but it's not looking good fir either of them.
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Jesus coggers is 28 how did that happen
 
mackembhoy said:
Don't get how Dickson or Cameron Steel are worth keeping over Scott.
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It’s a moot point because he was offered a contract but chose to leave. We didn’t choose to release him.
mackembhoy said:
T20 worth more than winning championship and the latter more effective in white ball than either have been for Durham

A T20 obsessed county tells you plenty.
I barely watch T20 but moronic if the county to let a homegrown white ball talent leave. When our best white ball batsman were less and Raine. Neither of which would get into any of the best sides in the county scene.

Great red ball side who we playing in white ball?

Short term attitude when white ball still likely to have more games next season.
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White ball cricket in this country is being marginalised and downgraded.

The plan this year before Covid was for the 50 over competition to be effectively second team cricket and for the T20 Blast to be completely second fiddle to the abomination that is the hundred.

I’m more than satisfied that the club are therefore prioritising red ball, but I reiterate the point that I made above - we didn’t get rid of him, he’s chosen to leave.
 
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Seems that Scott Steel has taken a long term career look at his situation and decided it's best to move on.His decision to play for Durham City in the DNECL rather than the NEPL would suggest he's focused in his decision making
 
Parkside said:
it'll happen in 3 weeks. Given that's he hasn't improved over the last 6 years there's hardly likely to be any improvement in the next 3 weeks. 3 wickets at 100 a piece in the BWT and an E.R > 10 in the vitality blast.
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that's a bit unfair...


his batting has got a bit better
 
It will be interesting to see the cricket and the role in the team Steel plays for his new county next season. I wionder if he plays regular first class cricket and does he play as as batsmen or all rounder.
At Durham in 2019 he was selected out of the blue to open the batting in the 50 over comp and did well and kept that role all season through the T20. But never got a look in in the championship side even when others where not performing.until the last knockings of the season .It was also very strange that he only signed a one year deal as well when normally your first full contract is 2 years.
If it's not about length of contract and money and actually about cricket then that is the only cricketing reason I can see why he left. It's pretty obvious this season the decision was made quite a while ago.
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
It will be interesting to see the cricket and the role in the team Steel plays for his new county next season. I wionder if he plays regular first class cricket and does he play as as batsmen or all rounder.
At Durham in 2019 he was selected out of the blue to open the batting in the 50 over comp and did well and kept that role all season through the T20. But never got a look in in the championship side even when others where not performing.until the last knockings of the season .It was also very strange that he only signed a one year deal as well when normally your first full contract is 2 years.
If it's not about length of contract and money and actually about cricket then that is the only cricketing reason I can see why he left. It's pretty obvious this season the decision was made quite a while ago.
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from the outside looking in it's hard to understand signing dickson long term and losing steel but obviously that's with hindsight and not knowing the inside track. perhaps steel was never likely to sign long term. perhaps we don't think he is right for red ball and don't feel we can afford specialists
 
brandon said:
It’s a moot point because he was offered a contract but chose to leave. We didn’t choose to release him.


White ball cricket in this country is being marginalised and downgraded.

The plan this year before Covid was for the 50 over competition to be effectively second team cricket and for the T20 Blast to be completely second fiddle to the abomination that is the hundred.

I’m more than satisfied that the club are therefore prioritising red ball, but I reiterate the point that I made above - we didn’t get rid of him, he’s chosen to leave.
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Why would he stay when we moved him from opening where he scored over 700 runs in 2 of the 3 formats, to batting 6-8 and being used as a spinner.
 
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mackembhoy said:
I'm not about terminating the contracts. I'm saying we weren't prepared to pay our second t20 batsman of 2019 what he wanted.

While happy to waste our wages elsewhere on players who have offered absolutely nothing. One for 2 seasons now.
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mackembhoy said:
Why would he stay when we moved him from opening where he scored over 700 runs in 2 of the 3 formats, to batting 6-8 and being used as a spinner.
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you can't beat the club for not coughing up the money then say it wasn't about the money. truth is we don't know the ins and outs
 
mackembhoy said:
Why would he stay when we moved him from opening where he scored over 700 runs in 2 of the 3 formats, to batting 6-8 and being used as a spinner.
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To be honest I think he was off before that happened. I remember someone on here at the start of the Bob Willis Trophy mentioning that Steel was only playing club cricket for Durham city while others not selected for first team where playing for clubs on Saturday and the academy on Sundays.
 
Twisted said:
that's a bit unfair...


his batting has got a bit better
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I assume you're being flippant-90 on a wicket that had become a road but a total of 24 runs in his other 5 BWT innings. In his first spell here I'd advocated he focused solely on his batting given his fitness record but with the recent spate of batting signings he's missed that route.
I'm equally mystified by Dickson signing-I assumed at the time that it meant Bedingham wouldn't be re-signing. It's also become apparent that Badger's return had been arranged some time ago.
I'm an interview in the CricketPaper over a year ago Steel stated that he didn't see his long-term future at Durham. Didn't clarify on the issue but that's his prerogative.
I'm posting a question to the zoom forum requesting clarification on our future youth policy -perhaps other posters may care to do likewise.
 
The signing of Dickson could of been for one or two reasons only, in my opinion.
1. A knee jerk reaction by Franklin/North, or
2. Bancroft is not coming back in 2021.
 
Parkside said:
I assume you're being flippant-90 on a wicket that had become a road but a total of 24 runs in his other 5 BWT innings. In his first spell here I'd advocated he focused solely on his batting given his fitness record but with the recent spate of batting signings he's missed that route.
I'm equally mystified by Dickson signing-I assumed at the time that it meant Bedingham wouldn't be re-signing. It's also become apparent that Badger's return had been arranged some time ago.
I'm an interview in the CricketPaper over a year ago Steel stated that he didn't see his long-term future at Durham. Didn't clarify on the issue but that's his prerogative.
I'm posting a question to the zoom forum requesting clarification on our future youth policy -perhaps other posters may care to do likewise.
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They can easily spin a response that a good chunk of the team is home grown... ignoring the point on chances the current youth are getting.
 
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