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Durham’s T20 Campaign

Well very much same old really. Clark sets us up well and we then fail to get enough. We didn't have a clue how to deal with Northants. It was absolutely embarrassing. Something needs to change. I'm massively frustrated at the way the club is at the moment. It's a results business and under Franklin it's simply not good enough. For me he needs to go but that's not going to happen. Therefore I would like to see some different players involved on Wednesday, I've mentioned them before and they simply either need to play or these lads need to look elsewhere like Campbell has. Over to you Mr Franklin, make changes or piss off.
I'd mention the confused batting order as a problem but @The Rat and his fake accounts will shoot me down again based on flawed statistics. Really don't see why we have Carse and Coughlin batting at 5 and 6, especially in games like today when they are coming in after 6-8 overs. They are fine to finish for a few overs, circumstances permitting, but Ned in particular is a much more reasonable option to expect to bat a reasonable innings, instead of coming in at 8 down when the game is nigh on lost. It can't be helping the lads out there, who admittedly aren't the best T20 batting unit anyway, when we have people coming in and getting out so quickly in such a scattered and mind-fucked order as that. We've done it for years here, and it hasn't worked for years.
 

I'd mention the confused batting order as a problem but @The Rat and his fake accounts will shoot me down again based on flawed statistics. Really don't see why we have Carse and Coughlin batting at 5 and 6, especially in games like today when they are coming in after 6-8 overs. They are fine to finish for a few overs, circumstances permitting, but Ned in particular is a much more reasonable option to expect to bat a reasonable innings, instead of coming in at 8 down when the game is nigh on lost. It can't be helping the lads out there, who admittedly aren't the best T20 batting unit anyway, when we have people coming in and getting out so quickly in such a scattered and mind-fucked order as that. We've done it for years here, and it hasn't worked for years.

what?
 
I'd mention the confused batting order as a problem but @The Rat and his fake accounts will shoot me down again based on flawed statistics. Really don't see why we have Carse and Coughlin batting at 5 and 6, especially in games like today when they are coming in after 6-8 overs. They are fine to finish for a few overs, circumstances permitting, but Ned in particular is a much more reasonable option to expect to bat a reasonable innings, instead of coming in at 8 down when the game is nigh on lost. It can't be helping the lads out there, who admittedly aren't the best T20 batting unit anyway, when we have people coming in and getting out so quickly in such a scattered and mind-fucked order as that. We've done it for years here, and it hasn't worked for years.
Don't understand what you mean by your first sentence but agree wholeheartedly with the rest.
The most pointless signing in the history of DCCC. Doesn't bowl, doesn’t bat, can't field. Who the fuck scouted him?
He doesn't even convince me in the 2nds.
 
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Yeah because our bowling aint been up to par, thats why we have lost games, done well with the bat, cant see how we could have regularly made more runs with the players we have available.
Very very limited view of the game. It’s all relative to each pitch. 240 can be a below par score on some Trent bridge tracks for instance, and 140 a defendable total in other places. Truth is we haven’t even come that close to winning the majority of our games - Yorkshire for example we might have set one of our best totals ever but it was clearly below par for the pitch, and they knocked it off with overs to spare.
 
Very very limited view of the game. It’s all relative to each pitch. 240 can be a below par score on some Trent bridge tracks for instance, and 140 a defendable total in other places. Truth is we haven’t even come that close to winning the majority of our games - Yorkshire for example we might have set one of our best totals ever but it was clearly below par for the pitch, and they knocked it off with overs to spare.

I’m not, we batted poorly today but batted well in other games

The bowling has been poor consistently
 
I’m not, we batted poorly today but batted well in other games

The bowling has been poor consistently
We’ve batted well until Clark got out in most if not all games. Then we’ve batted woefully. Can’t really think of a single game that we’ve been on par batting wise. Doesn’t excuse the bowling either, but it isn’t as simple as just being crap bowling every game
 
High totals are comparative,though. It's not a high total if the opposition make a higher one. We got 200+ against Yorkshire but it quickly looked paltry when Yorkshire got going.

We’ve scored high totals consistently

Yorkshire have better players than us

I dunno what people are expecting to post
We’ve batted well until Clark got out in most if not all games. Then we’ve batted woefully. Can’t really think of a single game that we’ve been on par batting wise. Doesn’t excuse the bowling either, but it isn’t as simple as just being crap bowling every game

Well that’s just not true like
 
And you have to question our choice of overseas batter. No doubting Bedingham's pedigree in red ball cricket but his T20 pedigree is modest at best. This season aggregate 95 runs in 6 inns with SR 120. Compare that with Chris Lynn,agg 266 from 5 inns with SR 156. No criticism of Bedingham,management make the call on overseas appointments.
 
And you have to question our choice of overseas batter. No doubting Bedingham's pedigree in red ball cricket but his T20 pedigree is modest at best. This season aggregate 95 runs in 6 inns with SR 120. Compare that with Chris Lynn,agg 266 from 5 inns with SR 156. No criticism of Bedingham,management make the call on overseas appointments.
Sadly durhams got injured
 
We're just never going to do anything in this competition with the team that is playing this year. Hardly any actual batsmen never mind batsmen who are suited to T20 and a very one dimensional bowling line up.

It's then compounded with poor captaincy like we saw today where Carse and Raine bowl out despite being awful and our two slower bowlers are left with overs still to bowl.

For me, any criticism should be directed towards the club management and administration rather than the players.
 
And you have to question our choice of overseas batter. No doubting Bedingham's pedigree in red ball cricket but his T20 pedigree is modest at best. This season aggregate 95 runs in 6 inns with SR 120. Compare that with Chris Lynn,agg 266 from 5 inns with SR 156. No criticism of Bedingham,management make the call on overseas appointments.

From memory Bedders did reasonably well last year in the T20. That was when he was (at times) opening though. I wonder whether his style and excellent timing are better suited to the powerplay 🤷‍♂️

I don’t understand the use of Raine this year either. Previously he’s been as high as 3 in a pinch hitting role - now he’s well and truly down with the tail.

Echo the comments about Coughlin and Carse batting so high too. Eckersley is a much better option to come in if we’re 3/4 down inside 12 overs IMO.

For all the criticism of the Robinson signing, he seems to be settling in quite well. No real matchwinning performance as yet, but he’s done as well as anyone up there who isn’t named Clark.

I stressed the other day when folk were suggesting dropping Borthwick that we absolutely MUST have 3 spinners in the side as a minimum. Obviously the loss of Turner was huge, because him and Trev were nailed on picks and it allowed us to have the option to rotate Borthwick and Drissell (he’s shite like). Days like today should prove that 3 spinners absolutely has to be the mantra for the rest of the competition.

Still can’t believe we’ve lost twice to the absolute shower of shite that is Northants mind. As bad as the campaign has been so far, we’d be second if we’d beaten them twice.

I think ultimately with this format, everyone can and will beat everyone in the group. I feel like on reflection we’ve seen glimpses from both the batting and bowling that we can compete - for me, the selection and the captaincy has been the real failure. Time and time again the wrong decisions are being made with regards to who bowls when and for how long.
We're just never going to do anything in this competition with the team that is playing this year. Hardly any actual batsmen never mind batsmen who are suited to T20 and a very one dimensional bowling line up.

It's then compounded with poor captaincy like we saw today where Carse and Raine bowl out despite being awful and our two slower bowlers are left with overs still to bowl.

For me, any criticism should be directed towards the club management and administration rather than the players.

Timely post given what I’ve said above, I didn’t read yours prior to posting mine cause I was typing mine out but we’re clearly at a similar junction.

Slightly disagree regarding the batting though - we’ve lost a couple of games already that we probably should’ve won after scoring decent totals.
 
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