errant
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i think this is something that a lot of people might fail to understand...
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Hardyman's Yugo
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It's a great film. I'd give it 9/10. Utterly gripping and full of understated performances, you can't go wrong if you've got he likes of Rylance and Branagh on top form.
Only thing I can fault is that the inside of the train carriage at the end clearly wasn't from 1940
Only thing I can fault is that the inside of the train carriage at the end clearly wasn't from 1940
Bob Fleming
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There were loads of continuity errors like that. Buildings anyway.
Have just been reading a book this morning - an account written during the war by a Spitfire pilot - that mentions one of his squadron landing on the beach and coming back in a destroyer.
Horatio Pugwash
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i said this earlier in the thread
you only seem to see a few hundred on the beach during the evacuation. there must have been hundreds of thousands in reality
the raf? why would they bother showing them in a fillum about the senior service saving the army (again).
Billy Fish
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It does seem to be the case that those saying they didn't like it are also the ones constantly whinging about football and life in general on here. Maybe they just live constantly unhappy lives never feeling fulfilled with anything.
Spitfire! by Brian Lane. Think it was quite cheap on kindle. Read a bit more today and he mentioned another Spitfire pilot who ditched in the sea but was picked up by a boat and travelled over to Dunkirk and helped with the evacuation.
Maybe they just didn't like it or it didn't think it quite lived up to the billing.
Most of the defence of it on here is that 'it wasn't meant to be like that'. Wasn't meant to show scale, wasn't meant to get the details right, wasn't meant to have dialogue, wasn't meant to have characters you cared about, wasn't meant to be enjoyed.
I'm generally a positive person and was really looking forward to this film, it left me disappointed. I understand that some people loved it, I don't understand that they can't accept that I didn't.
this place will bankrupt me...he alzo haz made ze list!
Lord Potts
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I saw the film with my lad . We both thought that it was an "interesting" interpretation of the battle. The special effects were very good and I loved the idea that the inside of a Spitfire cockpit squeeked and rattled which surely it must have done. There was a touch of a "Red Badge of Courage" about the movie which I think is a magnificent "war" film. Too many Spitfires though which was a basic mistake.i said this earlier in the thread
you only seem to see a few hundred on the beach during the evacuation. there must have been hundreds of thousands in reality
the raf? why would they bother showing them in a fillum about the senior service saving the army (again).
The Tars were however given some credit in the form of Kenneth Branagh who stayed on to the bitter end to evacuate the French when our lads were clear. He was the only one though as its common knowledge that most of the RN were in a pub in Pompy during the whole affair and left the real work to the civilian boats.
I saw the film with my lad . We both thought that it was an "interesting" interpretation of the battle. The special effects were very good and I loved the idea that the inside of a Spitfire cockpit squeeked and rattled which surely it must have done. There was a touch of a "Red Badge of Courage" about the movie which I think is a magnificent "war" film. Too many Spitfires though which was a basic mistake.
The Tars were however given some credit in the form of Kenneth Branagh who stayed on to the bitter end to evacuate the French when our lads were clear. He was the only one though as its common knowledge that most of the RN were in a pub in Pompy during the whole affair and left the real work to the civilian boats.
why do you say that??
Horatio Pugwash
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OUCH!!I saw the film with my lad . We both thought that it was an "interesting" interpretation of the battle. The special effects were very good and I loved the idea that the inside of a Spitfire cockpit squeeked and rattled which surely it must have done. There was a touch of a "Red Badge of Courage" about the movie which I think is a magnificent "war" film. Too many Spitfires though which was a basic mistake.
The Tars were however given some credit in the form of Kenneth Branagh who stayed on to the bitter end to evacuate the French when our lads were clear. He was the only one though as its common knowledge that most of the RN were in a pub in Pompy during the whole affair and left the real work to the civilian boats.
Was it Jeremy Corbyn sitting between the carriages that gave it away?
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Lord Potts
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Because even during the Battle of Britain the most numerous fighter that we had was the Hurrican which was Fighter Commands work horse during the early part of the War. There were Spitfires but they were fewer in number. Our propaganda even convinced the Nazis that we had loads of Spitfires.
Raymond Baxter told the story of how he went to meet the first German he shot down and the guy would absolutely not accept that Baxter had been flying a Hurrican . "Spitfire, Spitfire" the German insisted.
Loved Raymond Baxter on Tomorrow's World. What a gent he was. Didn't he used to do the Farnborough Airshow programmes as well? I remember him telling tales of his days as a fighter pilot during the war.
MunkyHeed
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Sorry to sound all Phil, but I thought it was shite.
The mixed timing thing didn't work at all for me.
The pilot was an ex stormtrooper.... he was the worst shot ever and kept missing.
The spitfire that ran out of fuel seemed to glide for hours!
The stupid death of the bong-eyed kid.
The pilot was an ex stormtrooper.... he was the worst shot ever and kept missing.
The spitfire that ran out of fuel seemed to glide for hours!
The stupid death of the bong-eyed kid.
Lord Potts
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He was a real hero and wonderfully understated. To me his best story about the War was why he admired that USA's armed services more than any other. When asked the reason he replied. " Beause during the whole of the War they were the only buggers who managed to shoot me down!"
But it only showed three Spitfires IIRC? As mentioned a few posts earlier I'm reading a book of a Spitfire pilot who fought at Dunkirk and he talks about four full squadrons of Spits going out on patrol together over Dunkirk on several occasions. Why would three, in one snapshot, constitute too many?
sorry to burst your bubble but Dunkirk was the first time we actually threw Spitfires over the channel so they was'nt actually the number discrepancy over Dunkirk that would occur in the BoB
also, Hurricanes were the only fighters we had earlier sent over to France so a lot of squadrons were reforming after being decimated in the BoF
further, the vast majority of Spitfire squadrons were in 11 Group (the Group directly opposite Dunkirk)
exact figures on an exact date are difficult to find but on the 10th May 1940 there were 19 squadrons of Spitfires based in England, number of Hurricane squadrons in England - 16
Lord Potts
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Sorry I don't agree with you figures at all a few weeks later during the Battle of Britain between July and September 1940, the figures were 19 squadrons of Supermarine Spitfires (372 aircraft at peak on August 30) and 33 squadrons of Hawker Hurricanes (709 aircraft on August 30) . The average proportion of serviceable aircraft each morning of that battle was 37% of the Spitfires and 67% of Hurricanes .
The figures vary slightly but the official list of squadron types engaged in the Battle of Britain show the same picture (
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My point being that we had twice the number of Hurricanes than Spitfires at that stage of the war and accordingly you would have been more likely to have seen a Hurricane over Dunkirk than a Spitfire. I am not suggesting that there were no Spitfires over Dunkirk but film directors are more interested in fulfilling audience expectations than giving an accurate picture.
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