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Colback or Henderson


Tommy said:
I love hendo but this comment is still ridiculous, he would have been one season into Liverpool's squad; Barca's midfield at the time was Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets which was (in my opinion) the best in the world at the time, and probably goes down as one of the best of all time.

Thats not to say he wasn't a good player, but he 100% was not at that level.
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You've just misinterpreted the comment in the same way as it was then :lol:.

If he was in the same midfield as those players he would have closed down opposition in exactly the same way and when he received the ball he would have passed it first time to Messi or Iniesta. I didn't say he was anywhere near as good as those players.
 
People don’t look that daft here.

Henderson always had the potential to be very good because of his vision and ability to move it quickly and accurately. In some respects, I still think he could have been a more influential player for Liverpool and England over a longer period.

That said, at the time of this thread, Colback had put in more complete and mature performances for Sunderland in the top flight than Henderson had. Henderson, in his short career here, showed high quality glimpses but often looked timid and lacking in responsibility / maturity compared to Colback. Had that Liverpool and Fulham swap deal gone through, Henderson’s career could very easily have gone a similar way to Colback’s.

But that’s where Henderson is obviously far superior to Colback. Decision making, commitment, drive and ambition. He’s looked after himself, physically improved and also had the benefit of playing under arguably the best man manager and coach in the world to improve his game as well.
 
alicante mackem said:
He never said he'd have been the best player in the team, just that he could have played in their team without looking like a weak link. I'll make a ridiculously similar comment. Dan Neil could play in any midfield and not stand out as being significantly poorer than the rest. And he's a third division footballer.
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I think that was a case of reading something and seeing something else mate. Par for the course on here.
 
alicante mackem said:
He never said he'd have been the best player in the team, just that he could have played in their team without looking like a weak link. I'll make a ridiculously similar comment. Dan Neil could play in any midfield and not stand out as being significantly poorer than the rest. And he's a third division footballer.
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I’d have to disagree with that. We’ll see if this thread is bumpable again in a few years :lol:
 
pillars of hercules said:
I remember posting at the time JH could have been put into Barcelona's midfield without standing out and in a good way. I was laughed at. He was fantastic at closing opposition down, being in good positions and passing quickly and accurately.
When he was at Sunderland he couldn't tackle or head the ball which he's developed at Liverpool. They both had potential but one made a really good choice and the other made a really, really bad choice and got what he deserved.
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One thing I think Henderson deserves credit for is turning down the swap move (with Dempsey?) to Fulham. He stuck at it and turned into a critical player for Liverpool. He could easily have gone chasing easier games at Fulham and become a midtable player (no shame in playing at that level)
 
Oh wow. I was chuckling at this bump when I thought it was just for the OP, but the replies are priceless. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
rocky said:
I used to unlike posts on this thread so I could like them again. Might do it again
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I was a SW cornerer back then and he had a few shouting shite and you never saw Jordan hide. Never thought he would be the leader he is now. Remember him asking a mate how to deal with bullies when at primary school as we played football in summer hill herra. My mate said kick their head like a football. Not sure if he applies that pychology today
 
Left For Dead said:
I was a SW cornerer back then and he had a few shouting shite and you never saw Jordan hide. Never thought he would be the leader he is now. Remember him asking a mate how to deal with bullies when at primary school as we played football in summer hill herra. My mate said kick their head like a football. Not sure if he applies that pychology today
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Sea to Shining Sea said:
People don’t look that daft here.

Henderson always had the potential to be very good because of his vision and ability to move it quickly and accurately. In some respects, I still think he could have been a more influential player for Liverpool and England over a longer period.

That said, at the time of this thread, Colback had put in more complete and mature performances for Sunderland in the top flight than Henderson had. Henderson, in his short career here, showed high quality glimpses but often looked timid and lacking in responsibility / maturity compared to Colback. Had that Liverpool and Fulham swap deal gone through, Henderson’s career could very easily have gone a similar way to Colback’s.

But that’s where Henderson is obviously far superior to Colback. Decision making, commitment, drive and ambition. He’s looked after himself, physically improved and also had the benefit of playing under arguably the best man manager and coach in the world to improve his game as well.
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They f***ing do man :lol:
 
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