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darius said:
I can answer most of that. Yes he will sell the club to the right deal. It's ridiculous to tell people how much you have to spend. Yes Grayson will have his own people to identify targets. The club aims to be promoted as soon as possible.
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Now if the owner comes out with that and vows to be more open and honest with supporters going forward it would be a big step forward.

theinediblebulk said:
Four promotions and he's a failure? That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read on here, and that takes some doing.
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Tbf the there's plenty of Preston fans think that way the one roker report got seemed to say the same thing, good league one manager but past that he struggles let's hope this is the time he fixes that.
 

Nelson! said:
We just appointed a bloke who's entire cv is success in league one and mediocre mid table championship. Yet people on here expect us to try and win promotion. Unreal.
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He's only 47 - he will hopefully have his best years as a manager ahead of him. Apart from anything else, we all know that sometimes managers click with a club, and sometimes they don't. Maybe he's the perfect appointment, maybe he'll be rubbish. We're about to find out, let's just try to keep the faith and enjoy the ride eh? Otherwise what's the point?
 
Mackemansj1 said:
Tbf the there's plenty of Preston fans think that way the one roker report got seemed to say the same thing, good league one manager but past that he struggles let's hope this is the time he fixes that.
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They need to have a word with themselves then. Grayson took them from near relegation to League 2 to 11th in the Championship with fuck all money. That isn't being a failure ffs, that's being succesful. If any one doesn't want to recognise that undeniable fact, fuck them, they're being f***ing idiots.

As for his level, who knows? But for me Clive, he came across well in the interview, seems genuinely pleased to have the opportunity to be here, his teams have a good work ethic, he can spot a bargain and he can work on a small budget. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's Brian of Judea or owt but I'll get behind him and hope he does well as that means we're doing well.
 
stephen cartwright said:
the official transfer window opens July 1st so we have not "wasted" the summer

short invited offers for the club, which has lead to offers coming in, which have not met his expectation

he stated he would set a deadline for offers, then proceed as owner and appoint a manager

he has done that immediately.

now the window is to open and it is to be seen, what is to happen
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we were always going to be massively restricted until we move the high earners anyway. I realise most have had a 40% wage cut, but we have had a bigger one in terms of income. The moving out of players we cant afford to pay/dont want here was always going to hot up near the end of the window and carry on until the end of the deadline.

realistically the most we can expect until further players move is one or two loans/fress and maybe the odd cheap signing.
 
Nelson! said:
That's like saying we've tried a few 10m pound strikers and they haven't done well....we might as well try someone from the conference.
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It really isn't is it if you're totally honest.. it's like saying we'll appoint someone who isn't particularly high profile as it hasn't got us anywhere before - I can't see where I'd said appoint a no hoper.. your comparison is completely shit
 
Am flabbergasted by the unbridled joy at Graysons appointment

We're so utterly screwed that we think appointing a new manager is the definition of "stability".

Simon Grayson, stability at last. Haway man.
 
Slartibartfarst42 said:
I agree entirely. Grayson is nothing more than a fairly safe pair of hands to stabalise us in the Championship. He's a cautious manager with drab football and his appointment screams out mid-table Championship mediocrity on a minimal budget. No ambition, no imagination and no excitement. We'll be an also ran in the Championship for a lot more years than the parachute payments will last.
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But eventually you will get promoted again.. all clubs above a certain size are in due time.
Myself I´m having a bet on Leeds this coming season, ambitious new owner doing all the right things have got their fans buzzing again.
 
admwil said:
I think some of our fans need a reality check

We need to be folllowing the likes of Burnley, Brighton, Huddersfield putting a team together on a budget that's full of spirit and fight, not just trying to be fashionable right now. We are no longer a PL team and we need to get ourselves out of debt!

Look where it got us in the past and we don't have the resources.

While like everyone I foubd the appointment of Grayson initially underwhelming, however in hindsight he is actually what we need right now. Everything he says in his interview is spot on as well about what's needed.

Best of luck to him. He is seeing this as his big opportunity. Knows what is required and has that kind of confidence/belief in his ability that BSA had, which I think will do us good.
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No good coming on here and talking sense.
 
RodneySAFC said:
We should have brought in a youthful forward thinking coach to learn from Grayson.
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Grayson is 47, but if you feel that's too old, we have Robbie Stockdale at 37, or should we maybe have had a look around Red house comp for this young upstart you crave?
 
burchmackem said:
I'm willing to give the guy a chance. We weren't going to attract anyone "better" and we might have brought in someone worse (Klinsmann!)

Let's see who he signs and how he has the lads playing before castigating him, eh?
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In fairness this is not a thread about Grayson. It's a thread about Short.
 
I'm totally underwhelmed withbthe appointment but such is the state of the club I don't see how we could have attracted anyone better.
 
Nelson! said:
I can't help but feel like with the appointment of Grayson and confirmation we will be proceeding with an owner who won't find improvement we have accepted out place as a Championship also ran.

It's need subtle but the club has been lowering expectations for months and the takeover was our only hope of things changing for the better.

The mags went down and embarked on a clear, positive campaign with a manager who had won the champions league and la liga. We have wasted the summer and are going to be managed by a no mark bottom feeder.

Obviously I hope he proves me wrong but I just can't see it. It's an absolutely shocking plight and it won't be getting better soon. Buckle up for championship football for a long time.

Lost all faith in SAFC to get anything right under Short. Especially now he is not even trying to compete.
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I know some don't like this and I'll be labelled a conspiracy theorist (which I am :lol:) but this was all planned at least as far back as this year last season.
 
The club makes appointments clearly not understanding what they are buying. They seem to think appointing a certain manager is buying certain results. His style of football and approach to team building is unlikely to result in a return to Premiership football, and if by some fluke we did get promoted, we would be heavily relegated the following season. I think at best we will end the season mid-table, but with the core of our team gutted and replaced with low-skilled long ball players and a general lower division mentality.

We have appointed a manager that if we were to get promoted the club would be in more of a crisis than it is now. We would need to sack him and rebuild the entire squad in the close season. We needed a manager who could build a team that could play its way of of the second tier with an eye to staying in the Premiership if we got there. This appointment is going backwards rather than forwards as far as I am concerned. We would have been better off sticking with Moyes, and Moyes was woeful.

Sunderland is a massively supported club with one of the best stadiums in the country. We can't be operated like a barely sustained lower rung one man and his dog outfit.
 
The problem we have here is Ellis Short always thinks he can achieve more with less. So he will aim for promotion on a survival budget. Which is what we will end up doing at best - Surviving another drop.
 
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