I agree. And btw i did two of those 3 away trips last season. Just trying to come up with a solution that might go some way to stopping tickets being bought and passed on.
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Hawkings Boots
Striker
I was in the one and only ballot we ran for Portsmouth away - went so well that everyone who applied got a ticket (and tickets went back to Portsmouth iirc showing the ballot was pointless in the first place)
I really should stop getting involved in these threads as its the same things over and over again
Expect to see them all rehashed again next week when Leeds goes on sale which everyone will fancy when it's an hour and half down the road but a six hour trip to Swansea in December last year was radio silence
garyeaststand
Winger
People with nee points
L18SFC
Striker
Pointless. All 36k just get 19 extra points. Just moves the number for everyone
That can get in the f***ing bin20% of ticket allocation to go into a ballot for all season ticket holders has been brought up apparently
Hawkings Boots
Striker
Don't think you will ever stop it fully to be honest
The ID checks are a good start for me but the whole ballot idea stinks a bit to me
I only have 42 points and it's taken a lot of time, effort and money to build those up as a family of three
The thought of missing out on away tickets to a zero point season ticket holder who only fancies it because we are now in the PL really pisses me off
Also, a ballot ain't a magic wand that people think it is - probably thousands of applicants for a few hundred tickets so you'd be lucky to get a couple a season. What solutions will people want applying if they apply for 19 ballots and are unsuccessful in all of them?
Guinness Guzzler
Striker
I do know a couple of people who don't really bother with home games and basically have a season ticket just for away ones, but even then I imagine they'll be going more now we're in the PL. So if they did it by games actually attended it could slightly help people who turn up, but I expect 99+% of away regulars also go to the home ones, so it would have so little effect it's meaningless.
And again, these threads just show there's no real consensus so it's hard to argue for a change. Some want smaller drops, meaning fewer people get their hands on tickets. Others want it to stay the same. Some want a ballot. Some want averaging to come back (I think that makes tickets more a case of who you know than whether you deserve them, but a few people have mentioned it)
Ultimately the club have heard it all before. They've considered other options and it's pretty certain nothing will change especially when it's the first season there's been real supply and demand issues. They'll track it. If we're 3 seasons in and no one currently in phase 3 can get a chance of a handful of aways a season then they'll probably try something but it's too early at the minute, especially given the lack of any majority consensus behind any individual change
Wimbledon away was very high points, think Wycombe usually was as well.
Good point. Im in a very similar situation to you with a similar amount of points.
You're right it does really piss you off when you see photos of supporters on their way to away games, West Ham for example with the caption 'first away game'.
All I was trying to suggest was a system that id seen work relatively well at another club, I realise its not a solution for everyone nor can you please everyone.
Reality is just have to apply for whatever we're able to apply for and hope for the best this season I guess.
R and W Tractor
Full Back
I personally think any ballot is unfair.
Current system is fine, just need to set phase 1 correctly so people can plan travel in advance, reduce the points gap between phases and be stringent on ID checks / passing on tickets.
Points cull affects everyone, including those in phase 1 now. If they wanted a chance now they should have kept attending so they would be in phase 1 now.
Interesting that people haven't suggested capping our season tickets to 25k or 50% capacity and putting the rest to a ballot to give newcomers a chance for the big home games now we are back in the Premier League and selling out at home..
DonaldDownTheWing
Striker
Agreed, anyone who’s only had a ST for this season should go into a ballot for next year.
There is a cap on season tickets, you have to leave 10% of tickets available for match days, for this very reason.
dred73
Winger
Tidied
garyeaststand
Winger
Point for staying til the end
R and W Tractor
Full Back
I understand that, but the 10% home cap didn't affect any existing loyal ST holders.
However a cap on away tickets to run a ballot would affect those loyalty ST holders who have built up points over the years.
It would, and we don't need it yet. But if the demand continues the way this season has they'll have to look at it.
Hawkings Boots
Striker
Also I don't think the demand will there next year for all games. Yes the big games will sell out early but that was the same in the Championship
Brighton took a while to sell in phase 3, West Ham needed a phase 4
Brighton took a while to sell in phase 3, West Ham needed a phase 4
Only if you were there for Benno v Speedie (shit - that doesn't really help)
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HorsePills
Winger
Two things would come from reducing the gap between thresholds. It would be more of a closed shop, and it would be more for the club to manage. The club wouldn't want either.
BarnesPark
Midfield
I hate to break it to you but with the current system, you currently miss out to people who don’t live in the area and don’t even have a season ticket.
Secret Visage
Striker
Excellent. The younguns, who are the future of our support, need to be at away games.
Stop the oldies who only want to get the points when someone else spends the coin, while they choose the glamour games.
Stop the oldies who only want to get the points when someone else spends the coin, while they choose the glamour games.
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How do you stop that?
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