chopsfc007
Striker
Cook is our best ever comfortably in my opinion
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Mr Redknapp
Striker
Bumble said that on TalkSPORT this morning.
Temp0101
Winger
Many people, and Cook himself, say that he doesn't have the natural talent of a lot of other players (like KP) but his 'can do' attitude and knuckling down has got him to where he is. If KP is our best batsman then with the talent he has, and not having to face the new ball, he should easily have more runs than Cook. But he didn't have the mental side to do it.
KP was pretty much neck and neck with Cook in terms of runs and centuries when he was put out to grass.
Across all formats hard to disagree.
He was player of the tournament in the only limited overs competition we won.
His innings against South Africa at Headingley when he made Steyn look like a net bowler is one the greatest innings from an English player I’ve seen. Probably only Gooch v Windies at same venue trumps it.
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chopsfc007
Striker
It's harder for Cook against the new ball
It say for mentality, longevity, and the fact he faces the new ball cookies better
So cook is better than likes of Kohli, Richards, De Villiers, Lara etc as it’s easier for them not facing new ball?
Temp0101
Winger
8423 vs 8151 to Cook, and KP started a year before Cook. So more runs, with less talent, in shorter space of time, but more crucially, facing the new ball. Proves the point, doesn't it?
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chopsfc007
Striker
I'm comparing Cook with KP and named 3 reasons why I thought he is better.
Ageing trundler
Midfield
Pietersen for me by some distance is the best England batsman I've seen in my 40 years of watching England. Cook is the best opener - just.
Mr David
Striker
He simply is. The amount of people he got into Cricket from the 05 ashes was incredible.
Hadn’t cook played as many games though due to KP injuries?
If the argument is purely based on having to face the new ball then what you’re saying is that any successful opener is a better player than a successful middle order one.
Also Cook couldn’t adapt his game to limited overs KP could and was I did the first real superstars of 20/20 cricket.
Temp0101
Winger
Fine, you’re right, KP is far better than Cook, Mr Morgan.
Correct.
rentaghost
Striker
it is a different skills set mind so its hard to compare openers with world class No 4 s. I don't think any of those batsmen would have Cook's record opening every week but they would all have far superior records to Cook batting at 4.
SAFC 83
Midfield
Surely we’re only talking about test cricket though? Imo, Pieterson was more talented and on the face of it a better batsman. Hard to argue against Cook having the better test career though. Facing the new ball is certainly a factor in judging a players career if players have a similar record.
Overall both great players for England, Pieterson being the better batsman and being better across all formats but Cook with the better test career, imo of course.
No chance
Cook better test batsman easy. No contest
Cook’s record in ODIs is excellent
Another lazy assumption by you
Why comparing?
Imagine if Pietersen had opened, he’d have been awful
Also againt tonight KP’s PR machine Piers Morgan making a fool of himself
So deluded
Cook will the greatest send off of any English cricketer ever this weekend, I honestly reckon Pietersen would be booed
Idiots
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chopsfc007
Striker
Average 36 isn't excellent
SAFC 83
Midfield
So you agree with me that Cook had the better test career? The fact he opened, his longevity and his mental toughness all being in his favour. No way did he have more talent than Pieterson though and to be honest I’ll take anything you say about with a pinch of salt as you hate too much to be objective in any way.
Mr Redknapp
Striker
For all the opinions on here you can't argue that he never went hiding and fronted up.
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