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5th test the oval

sonson said:
Also wicket preparation is literally part of the game and a huge part of its continued attraction and every nation does it including ours. Keeps things fresh and interesting. It's not some devious backdoor tactic to have a pitch designed to favour the home side.
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Surely that depends to what level, and how much advantage it gives one side over the other.
Inside Forward said:
Could you have restrained yourself from slapping Smith and Labuschagne after you’d had a few? I don’t think I could have.
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Of course I could, that what sport is about give your all on the pitch which at times means on the field you can overstep the mark slightly and look a bit of a twat.

However off the field you have a pint forget about it and move on, as sport can get competitive that’s just how it is.

If Smith and Labuschagne were English we would love their competitive spirit
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Surely that depends to what level, and how much advantage it gives one side over the other.

Of course I could, that what sport is about give your all on the pitch which at times means on the field you can overstep the mark slightly and look a bit of a twat.

However off the field you have a pint forget about it and move on, as sport can get competitive that’s just how it is.

If Smith and Labuschagne were English we would love their competitive spirit
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And Smith is half English. Carey didn't cheat either it was Bairstow with his head in the clouds that cost him :lol:

Mind you, what's happened to Marnus' bowling?! looked like a club leggie when he game on!
 
Mr Redknapp said:
And Smith is half English. Carey didn't cheat either it was Bairstow with his head in the clouds that cost him :lol:

Mind you, what's happened to Marnus' bowling?! looked like a club leggie when he game on!
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Aye its always really dull how many sports fans pretend to be objective and opposed to someone on moral grounds.

You just don't like them because they're on the other team, it's fine. It's nothing mote complex than that. You don't like it when people do things that mean your team lose, you like it when your team do the same thing if it means they win. People on here be absolutely fuming against the actics of Broad if he was Australian. He's intentionally an arsehole with the bails stuff, it's supposed to be annoying and provocative, thats why it works. It's one of his key weapons.

Smith is a freak mind who I would want to bully in any context.
 
zebediah said:
It's small potatoes to what they have done over the years to unsettle batsmen.
But only Ozzies know where the "line" is.
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:lol:

You say it like they letterbombed their families

It's a game where people get balls of leather thrown at their head at 90mph, but no whats really scary is the mean words those Australians say
 
sonson said:
:lol:

You say it like they letterbombed their families

It's a game where people get balls of leather thrown at their head at 90mph, but no whats really scary is the mean words those Australians say
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So why even mention something like moving bails is a big shithouse move?
Also say that to Warner, who sledged away, then when he got some back he wanted to fight and cried like a baby.
 
Fleagle said:
Always think we have a very unbalanced view of balanced in England.

At Headingley and Old Trafford combined only five in 72 of the wickets fell to spinners. And that’s more than sometimes at those two. Only the Ahmedabad day nighter had a comparable ratio the other way when we were in India last time and that was something of a joke pitch. The rest were much more “balanced” numerically than a typical English seamer.
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First of all it’s true Ahmedabad was a joke pitch. Two of the 4 tests were there and in 6 of the 8 innings the score was 200 or less and pieces were coming out if the surface from the first over. The second test wasn’t a good balance between bat and ball either. We hammered them in test one and they ordered turners which is their prerogative but went far to far to the extent the last two test matches were Micky mouse.
 
zebediah said:
So why even mention something like moving bails is a big shithouse move?
Also say that to Warner, who sledged away, then when he got some back he wanted to fight and cried like a baby.
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Because it is?

I didn't at any point deny that Australia love shithousery themselves, in fact I've said all series it's weird how comparatively disinterested this Australian team are in that sort of thing given that Australians tend to delight in it

But shithousery is shithousery. Its not somehow nicer or better (or worse, even) when England do it.
Jap Stammer said:
Aussie definition of 'the line':

Acceptable - "Get ready for a f@cking broken arm."

Unacceptable - "He moved the bails! Boo hoo. How very dare he, the beast!"
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To qoute the Beegees/Boyzone

Its only words.

They didn't break anyone's arm, or try to break anyone's arm. They didn't do anything more intrinsically dangerous than bowling a lump of leather at someone at 75+ mph which is the game itself.

Putting the batsman off is putting the batsman off. I personally have no issue with it (at this level) at all. Long as its not criminal verbal abuse ie racism or whatever, as happened with Symonds against India, and within the laws of the game. Like if the Umpires tell you to stop then obviously you have to. I remember thst happened between Paine and Kohli when India won their first series in Australia the other year.

But If you genuinley have issues with putting the batsman off, think there's no room in the game for it, then f***ing around with bails, which Broad has said himself was intended to do that, should be a problem for you though as much as anything else Aussies might have said.
 
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sonson said:
Because it is?

I didn't at any point deny that Australia love shithousery themselves, in fact I've said all series it's weird how comparatively disinterested this Australian team are in that sort of thing given that Australians tend to delight in it

But shithousery is shithousery. Its not somehow nicer or better (or worse, even) when England do it.

To qoute the Beegees/Boyzone

Its only words.

They didn't break anyone's arm, or try to break anyone's arm. They didn't do anything more intrinsically dangerous than bowling a lump of leather at someone at 75+ mph which is the game itself.

Putting the batsman off is putting the batsman off. I personally have no issue with it (at this level) at all. Long as its not criminal verbal abuse ie racism or whatever, as happened with Symonds against India, and within the laws of the game. Like if the Umpires tell you to stop then obviously you have to. I remember thst happened between Paine and Kohli when India won their first series in Australia the other year.

But If you genuinley have issues with putting the batsman off, think there's no room in the game for it, then f***ing around with bails, which Broad has said himself was intended to do that, should be a problem for you though as much as anything else Aussies might have said.
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You talk some shit you do.
 
sonson said:
Because it is?

I didn't at any point deny that Australia love shithousery themselves, in fact I've said all series it's weird how comparatively disinterested this Australian team are in that sort of thing given that Australians tend to delight in it

But shithousery is shithousery. Its not somehow nicer or better (or worse, even) when England do it.

To qoute the Beegees/Boyzone

Its only words.

They didn't break anyone's arm, or try to break anyone's arm. They didn't do anything more intrinsically dangerous than bowling a lump of leather at someone at 75+ mph which is the game itself.

Putting the batsman off is putting the batsman off. I personally have no issue with it (at this level) at all. Long as its not criminal verbal abuse ie racism or whatever, as happened with Symonds against India, and within the laws of the game. Like if the Umpires tell you to stop then obviously you have to. I remember thst happened between Paine and Kohli when India won their first series in Australia the other year.

But If you genuinley have issues with putting the batsman off, think there's no room in the game for it, then f***ing around with bails, which Broad has said himself was intended to do that, should be a problem for you though as much as anything else Aussies might have said.
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Good post imo
 
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