SMB Photography Competition Round 4 - Obsolete. Discussion thread

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peachbum said:
As a thought; I see Hauser's Helmet has entered a picture and then says he may post a different one later. Is it a bit unfair to post your picture, here an old wheel, you are sort of taking over the photographing of a wheel ie stopping anyone else doing it but then having the option of posting something else later in the month? You are taking the early idea advantage and still saying that you might come in with a late idea. I personally feel it should be one entry only, with no changes (and I am not talking about an error in posting the image). Thoughts anybody?
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I tend to agree with you.

It's possibly preventing others with a similar idea, only to be removed....

I entered my pic which was taken on the 1st April when the weather was crap but even if I got back to that location and had good light, I wouldn't replace my original entry.
 
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Mercia Blackcat said:
I tend to agree with you.

It's possibly preventing others with a similar idea, only to be removed....

I entered my pic which was taken on the 1st April when the weather was crap but even if I got back to that location and had good light, I wouldn't replace my original entry.
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So that's two of us who think one entry only then. :)
 
No doubt about it in my mind.

I posted an early entry and although it's a bit unique in some ways, I had to take the chance with the weather and light.

Pros and cons....but I can't have it both ways.

Although I'm sure HH hasn't thought of it that way or intended that but that is the effect of being able to change entry.
 
I am from the school of thought where if you have to explain how a photo meets the theme, it doesn't meet the theme!

However, everyone is free to vote according to their own principles and that is what makes it so intriguing.
 
Roger said:
I am from the school of thought where if you have to explain how a photo meets the theme, it doesn't meet the theme!
However, everyone is free to vote according to their own principles and that is what makes it so intriguing.
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:) I'm going dead obvious this month! Title will be "Obsolete!"
 
Roger said:
I am from the school of thought where if you have to explain how a photo meets the theme, it doesn't meet the theme!

However, everyone is free to vote according to their own principles and that is what makes it so intriguing.
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Possibly, but people this month without some wording in the title could easily mistake my entry of an ancient hillfort for some more modern earthworks or even a natural formation of the land and still not see the connection with obsolete even tough it is one of the most obsolete structures around.

peachbum said:
:) I'm going dead obvious this month! Title will be "Obsolete!"
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I hope it is obsolete and not merely redundant ;)
 
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So we have Roger & keeps21 in one corner and Merci & Peachbum in the other.

Not Spavin used to be indecisive but now he's not so sure.....
 
Mercia Blackcat said:
So we have Roger & keeps21 in one corner and Merci & Peachbum in the other.

Not Spavin used to be indecisive but now he's not so sure.....
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I actually submitted a shot last month that I had intended to change later on - checked on here that it was OK before doing so.

Didn't bother in the end, and I wish that I hadn't posted that shot when I did. It didn't feel right submitting a second shot later in the month, should have just kept it on my Flickr and make a call later on.

Having said that, I have no objection to it. Not sure if another rule change is really called for, we've already had a few. I hope that, if anyone does change their shot mid-month, people don't take it into account when voting. It's within the rules after all.
 
Fair enough but the corrollary should also apply which is if someone is influenced by an earlier entry they should not be penalised regarding the voting as that entry may have been removed.

Last month I was influenced more by tunstall birdman's entry than the named topic itself but said so.

It doesn't really bother me but it is the effect nevertheless.

But.....

What about titles and descriptions?
 
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Mercia Blackcat said:
Fair enough but the corrollary should also apply which is if someone is influenced by an earlier entry they should not be penalised regarding the voting as that entry may have been removed.

Last month I was influenced more by tunstall birdman's entry than the named topic itself but said so.

It doesn't really bother me but it is the effect nevertheless.

But.....

What about titles and descriptions?
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I think that's up to the individual - both the entrant and the voter. I missed out on a few votes due to my title in Feb, so some people obviously consider all aspects. I'd be less arsed about titles, but then again I'm probably more inclined towards entries are are leftfield interpretations of the theme.

tbh all the rules aren't going to suit everyone, seems there's a new complaint every month.
 
Hmmm I've just got back from camping up in the mountains to this little debate, so here's my views.

Posting a pic then changing it
Not something I'd do and in my opinion, should be against the rules. If we take Growth for example, as with any other month we'll have people posting similar. So what's to stop me looking through the entries and taking out my pic "Dhown but not out" and replacing it with a tree or plants, thus copying someones idea?

Description
I think this is a no brainer, it's all good and well saying that you "shouldn't need to" but in some, or rather a lot of cases, a description is required to justify it's suitability of the entry. It's for that reason I think description should at the discretion of the poster.

For my Earth entry I have animals feeding off the land, no description required.

For my Growth entry I have an old boat with the Abu Dhabi skyline in the background. I felt that this needed explaining because I was venturing away from the more obvious possibilities. Does everyone on the board know that a Dhow boat is a traditional boat? Does everyone know that Abu Dhabi has "grown" so much because of Oil? Does everyone even know my photo was of Abu Dhabi?

There's my two pennyworth. That took some writing after the trip we've just been on believe me.... :lol:
 
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not spavin said:
Having said that, I have no objection to it. Not sure if another rule change is really called for, we've already had a few. I hope that, if anyone does change their shot mid-month, people don't take it into account when voting. It's within the rules after all.
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What rule is being changed? What rules have been changed? The only rule I recall being changed is picture must be shot in month of comp, to shoot any time, and then back to shoot in month of comp.

I just don't like people going "I'm posting this but I may change it". It's my opinion, and some seem to agree. I only brought it forward as a discussion point. It can either be ignored, debated or whatever. I haven't actually asked for a rule change or anything. :)
 
peachbum said:
What rule is being changed? What rules have been changed? The only rule I recall being changed is picture must be shot in month of comp, to shoot any time, and then back to shoot in month of comp.

I just don't like people going "I'm posting this but I may change it". It's my opinion, and some seem to agree. I only brought it forward as a discussion point. It can either be ignored, debated or whatever. I haven't actually asked for a rule change or anything. :)
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The rule about anonymous voting was changed, as was the rule about having to take the picture specifically for the competition. Both for the better, probably.

The more I think about it, the more I agree that you submission should be final.
 
not spavin said:
The rule about anonymous voting was changed, as was the rule about having to take the picture specifically for the competition. Both for the better, probably.

The more I think about it, the more I agree that you submission should be final.
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Same here. I'm not really that bothered but there is a knock on effect. Someone might avoid a certain slant on the theme to do something else only to see it later deleted.
 
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