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Aston Villa planning complaint to Premier League


Voice of fair play said:
What a load of shit!

Mistakes are made and have been made for years by both players and refs.

Players miss open goals, and make horrendous mistakes that cost teams big games.

And refs make big mistakes that cost teams games always happened always will.

That doesn’t mean players or refs are dishonest?

That’s just football , going down the legal route is farcical
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If you read the club’s statement, they are not looking to go down the legal route or change things.

There is no complaint is, out of 10 refs yesterday, why were we allocated the 2nd least experienced ref when so much was at stake.

And incompetence is far greater that just a mistake.
 
Cridge said:
It wasn’t the fact that he misjudged the challenge. Anyone could do that. It’s the fact that he blew up, depriving VAR the opportunity to review it.

We’ve had it rammed down our throats all season that play should be allowed to continue. There is no point in having VAR if this happens.

Not applying the rules is more than just a mistake.
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No mate, it's still just a mistake.
 
buster said:
I’d like to see an appeal and legal challenge to the decision if possible, only to set a precedent.

The potential loss of earnings is immense and maybe it’s time to challenge any blatant incompetence.
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You start bringing legal challenges into football and the game is dead .
What’s next , Sheff Utd claiming their second should have been allowed . The season would be never ending.

Second point , All those slating linesmen who don’t put their flag up early , this is the reason they do it and why it shouldn’t change .
 
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Redandwhitedust said:
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Makes for an interesting read.

Mags have had 9 more positive decisions than negative. More than twice as many than any other club. While most of the teams around them have had the odd one for or against
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+9 :lol:

And @Voice of fair play reckons it’s embarrassing to suggest they might have paid anyone off

That doesn’t include yesterday either.
 
Thunder Road said:
Exactly!

I fully understand why they are absolutely fuming with the referee but the way clubs go on and trying to get the courts involved is an absolute joke.

If Martinez didn't come out like a tit they might have got the result they needed
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Nowt will happen and tbh they should be tearing strips off Martinez as you say.
 
Good Teeth Keith said:
+9 :lol:

And @Voice of fair play reckons it’s embarrassing to suggest they might have paid anyone off

That doesn’t include yesterday either.
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Look at the other teams around them

Forest -4
Arsenal -6
Chelsea -3
Liverpool -2 (LiVARpool my arse!)

Man City +2
Villa +4
Are their only close teams to benefit, and even combined it doesnt match Newcastles net score.

I dont think anyone's been paid off, but it looks very suspect
palm 1 said:
Second point , All those slating linesmen who don’t put their flag up early , this is the reason they do it and why it shouldn’t change .
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I dont see why offsides shouldn't be flagged immediately.

If there's an offside, and you dont flag straightaway then player and keeper come together. You could feasibly have one of the situations, which would be totally avoidable.

1) player and keeper collide resulting in an injury and a forced substitution.
2) keeper taking out the striker clumsily and being sent off.
3) striker scores only for it to be ruled out anyway

As far as im aware, referees dont allow teams to play advantage from offside. So I would say it should be flagged. Of course the issue is that you flag, the offside is given, then a replay rules the striker was onside.

But VAR has overcomplicated everything now so every "what if" situation is now an issue. This over complication is spoiling the game in my opinion. I can see a time when linesmen are replaced be technology to be honest
 
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Nowt will happen. They’ll use the line of ‘well even if Villa scores there’s no guarantee they would have won the game case closed’
 
Jdw25 said:
Nowt will happen. They’ll use the line of ‘well even if Villa scores there’s no guarantee they would have won the game case closed’
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This.

It would be interesting if it was the other way around and the mags lost out to a ref decision or VAR.
 
Jdw25 said:
Nowt will happen. They’ll use the line of ‘well even if Villa scores there’s no guarantee they would have won the game case closed’
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Of course nothing should happen. What would you want to happen?
Wansbeck Viking said:
This.

It would be interesting if it was the other way around and the mags lost out to a ref decision or VAR.
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Exactly the same thing would happen. The mags would be pissed off but they'd have to get on with it.

Seriously lads, it isn't a conspiracy it's just a mistake.
 
Redandwhitedust said:
Look at the other teams around them

Forest -4
Arsenal -6
Chelsea -3
Liverpool -2 (LiVARpool my arse!)

Man City +2
Villa +4
Are their only close teams to benefit, and even combined it doesnt match Newcastles net score.

I dont think anyone's been paid off, but it looks very suspect


I dont see why offsides shouldn't be flagged immediately.

If there's an offside, and you dont flag straightaway then player and keeper come together. You could feasibly have one of the situations, which would be totally avoidable.

1) player and keeper collide resulting in an injury and a forced substitution.
2) keeper taking out the striker clumsily and being sent off.
3) striker scores only for it to be ruled out anyway

As far as im aware, referees dont allow teams to play advantage from offside. So I would say it should be flagged. Of course the issue is that you flag, the offside is given, then a replay rules the striker was onside.

But VAR has overcomplicated everything now so every "what if" situation is now an issue. This over complication is spoiling the game in my opinion. I can see a time when linesmen are replaced be technology to be honest
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#2 wouldn't happen if VAR shows it was offside, for example Martinez yesterday if Hojlund was offside.

#4 a legitimate goal is scored whereas on 100s of occasions in the past the linesman's instant flag killed the attacking move.

This is what some can't grasp as being the main reason why play is allowed to continue.
 
Redandwhitedust said:
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Makes for an interesting read.

Mags have had 9 more positive decisions than negative. More than twice as many than any other club. While most of the teams around them have had the odd one for or against
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The old Saudi trip for refs must be having some effect...who would have thunk it? đŸ€”
 
The only thing that should happen here is that the referee should be sent on a refresher course, incompetence can be corrected.
 
Cridge said:
It wasn’t the fact that he misjudged the challenge. Anyone could do that. It’s the fact that he blew up, depriving VAR the opportunity to review it.

We’ve had it rammed down our throats all season that play should be allowed to continue. There is no point in having VAR if this happens.

Not applying the rules is more than just a mistake.
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Karma works in wonderful ways. Goal line technology 'failing' basically kept you in the league. I wonder if that was seen as corruption...

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Fleagle said:
Same here with control. Obviously, the goalkeeper is not in control of the ball in the narrow sense of holding it. But the laws also say that he is deemed in control of the ball in other cases including when “the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save”. Which seems to describe the case here at the time the challenge came in. He’s already touched it with his hand and it’s still between his hands.

Overprotected goalkeeper? Very probably. Foul as the law stands? Looks like it to me. Not clearly and obviously not one anyway whatever “common sense” might suggest even if VAR could have intervened.
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the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save

Not for me but I can understand why the ref thought what he saw but it's a bit baffling why he blew so quickly.

I think the rule for the keeper being 'in control' which the keeper clearly wasn't yesterday as the ball bounced between his hands and when Rogers got a toe on the ball the keeper wasn't even touching it as it 'rebounded' off him as he didn't have anything on the ball.

1st angle shows gap between right hand and the ball and the 2nd image shows gap between left hand and ball when Roger's toe pokes it

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safcb88 said:
Unbelievable that It didn't go to VAR for a start. Not sure they will get far with the complaint probably just get a sorry but It's cost them millions of pounds because they would of been In champions league
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You know they still played shite and got beat don’t you?
 
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