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1st TEST :: New Zealand v England


Aidan11 said:
I can't see McKinney getting in

Team might look something like this -

Lees
Gay
Rhodes
Bedingham
Ackermann
Robinson
Carse *
Raine
(Overseas bowler)
Potts*
Parkinson

Carse and Potts may be withdrawn by England so their places would likely be filled by deLeede and Coughlin.
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Rhodes can play the role of 4th seamer in place of the unavailable Carse which opens a place for McKinney. There's also new signing Sam Connors as back up seamer.
Ghfd said:
Seeing those potential batting orders could this be the end for Scotty Borthwick ?

For Durham before anyone wades in :lol:
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2nd team captain.
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
They’re just trying to be funky now
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Literally just had this conversation with a mate, they’re really pissing me off now with these zany selections.

Bethell bats 5 or 6 for Warwickshire and has a FC average, from just 20 games, of 25. Last season was particularly shite from him. Seriously, what the f*ck about him can they possibly think is worthy of batting 3 in Tests for England?

Now as usual with this sort of thing I would like nothing more than to see him score several hundreds on this Tour and become the greatest number 3 that world cricket has ever known. But, I’m fairly confident we aren’t going to see that.

Just like with the selection of Cox and even with the continued selection of Bashir, it’s getting to the point where I’m worried they’re just trolling us now.
 
brandon said:
Literally just had this conversation with a mate, they’re really pissing me off now with these zany selections.

Bethell bats 5 or 6 for Warwickshire and has a FC average, from just 20 games, of 25. Last season was particularly shite from him. Seriously, what the f*ck about him can they possibly think is worthy of batting 3 in Tests for England?

Now as usual with this sort of thing I would like nothing more than to see him score several hundreds on this Tour and become the greatest number 3 that world cricket has ever known. But, I’m fairly confident we aren’t going to see that.

Just like with the selection of Cox and even with the continued selection of Bashir, it’s getting to the point where I’m worried they’re just trolling us now.
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Moving pope down is sensible mind
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
They’re just trying to be funky now
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I mean it's no real different to opening with Lawrence and we've batted Rehan at 3 a couple of times too

So that ship had already sailed.

But as Pope couldn't bat 3 someone had to. Rather than them using their heads and going one of us senior players Root/Stokes should front up at bat 3. Instead they've put extra pressure on a young lad who they had no intention of playing till 2 days ago.

I'm sure Bethell with the overconfidence of youth has happily stuck his hand up. Wanting to proof he's fearless in this we don't care if you fail mantra they all sing. But we rushed in Pope in the past batting 4 when he'd never batted above 6 before. But this was a swashbuckling averaging 80 batsman in FC cricket.

The adults in the room need to stop taking the piss out of test cricket and just going off vibes.

That being said go well Jacob, I sincerely hope he scores runs. Robinson has to be called up for the second test that being said.
 
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I really hope the lad does well, but why or why do we keep doing this to players it’s soo unfair on them and setting them up to fail.

It was a left field selection in the first place, which I did not disagree with as much as some.

But it is absolutely ridiculous to throw him in at the massive deep end at 3.

Talk about not giving the lad a chance
mackembhoy said:
I mean it's no real different to opening with Lawrence and we've batted Rehan at 3 a couple of times too

So that ship had already sailed.

But as Pope couldn't bat 3 someone had to. Rather than them using their heads and going one of us senior players Root/Stokes should front up at bat 3. Instead they've put extra pressure on a young lad who they had no intention of playing till 2 days ago.

I'm sure Bethell with the overconfidence of youth has happily stuck his hand up. Wanting to proof he's fearless in this we don't care if you fail mantra they all sing. But we rushed in Pope in the past batting 4 when he'd never batted above 6 before. But this was a swashbuckling averaging 80 batsman in FC cricket.

The adults in the room need to stop taking the piss out of test cricket and just going off vibes.

That being said go well Jacob, I sincerely hope he scores runs. Robinson has to be called up for the second test that being said.
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Excellent post mate spot on, we have senior experienced cricketers who should be fronting up to bat in a problem position, yet it’s been put on a debutant who normally doesn’t bat there in the first place.
 
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chopsfc007 said:
Moving pope down is sensible mind
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Leaving him at home would’ve been sensible.
Liverpool Beachball said:
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I agree with Alasdair, I saw those comments from Root last night too and it’s clearly propagandist bullshit.

That’s part of the annoyance for me, just stop f*cking lying to us 🤷‍♂️
 
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