Alexandre Mendy (transfer rumour)

[BarnesPark]

Have you seen a WhatsApp message from anyone's art dealer lately?

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Confusing me for someone else?

 

[G Force]

……,and we’re off!

To be fair, he’s not actually wrong mind

 

[BarnesPark]

To be fair, he’s not actually wrong mind

Probably. But he was equally right when he said the same thing yesterday.

 

[Bears Beets]

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morning folks, what’s the order of play in the thread today then?

 

[Hot Since 82]

It's the clubs fault there aren't senior strikers and the young lads have had to play, not their own. You can't just write them off based on that.

It's a pre season friendly man and he got an assist Chris Rigg looked absolutely anonymous in league games last season yet there's zero criticism of him.

I know it's the clubs fault, that's the point I was making, look at this list of players that Speakman thought were are already first team standard, none of them were and they still aren't a year later.

Speakman signed these lads as first team players and presented them to Mowbray as such. He then sacked Mowbray for failing to get a tune out of them. It's fair enough signing a few that are maybe for the future but Speakman signed about 16. Where were the signings we need for last season. Like I said in my post hopefully the additions of Mundle (last season) along with Poveda and Browne shows a change in direction.

Still have hope for
Ba
Aa
Mayenda off that list
A good loan with regular football and jewi still has the raw attributes to do something .

Probably aye, but they weren't good enough to be in the first team one year ago and still aren't imo.

 

[Eric gates hair]

I can see through the smoke, I haven't forgotten the ineptitude of the recruitment last season, especially in the striker department and the sacking of a coach to cover up for this.you keep bleating on about there is still a month left of the transfer window, completely oblivious that the season starts in just over 8 days. We have been here in the last 3 transfer windows, failing to address the issues within our young inexperienced squad, spending what money we had on players nowhere near the standard required for the championship. The owner said that lessons have been learnt, really because there has been very little evidence to suggest that there has. So you stick to the insults and the clapping mate, keep accepting low standards and believing that things are about to change when all the evidence so far points to the complete opposite.

Go on Phooey lad

 

[Hot Since 82]

People aren't blowing smoke up Speakmans arse though, People just have an alternative view to others.

FWIW I think Speakmans done a very good job considering the position we were in when he took the job. The value within the squad now is incomparable to what he inherited. There's no doubt about it we have signed some duds, but that is always going to happen at any club, Even more so one that's trying to recover financially from a club that was completely decimated on the back of back-to-back relegations.

The Striker situation is shit, Everybody knows it and he needs to rectify it urgently. I don't think they are sitting doing fuck all, It's probably as equally frustrating for them as it is for us.

The argument that we haven't brought a Striker in isn't true, We've brought in four that just don't happen to be ready yet. Rusyn on the face of it looked a decent buy but bringing in foreign players who are fairly young is always going to be a risk. It's evident last year we weren't a club that's prepared to pay significant wages in the hope an experienced Striker would be the answer.

From the top 10 scorers in the Championship we had one in the top 10, There was only Armstrong, Vardy, Sergeant, Lath and Adams who were also in the top 10 that play upfront. Every single one of them were either at clubs that have recently been relegated from the PL, or from clubs that reinvested alot of money from a big sale to bring them in. We haven't been able to do that yet as we have managed to retain our best players.

It clearly isn't easy when you don't have a large budget to fall back on..

The club spent £2M on Rusyn and £2.5M on Hjelde, neither should be in our first team, one looks lost the other looks utterly terrible. Brilliant business that, alongside that other dozen or so that are nowhere near ready. Ipswich reported to have paid £1.5 - £2M for Broadhead who was their top scorer last season and helped fire them to the premier league.

 

[Confucius]

People aren't blowing smoke up Speakmans arse though, People just have an alternative view to others.

FWIW I think Speakmans done a very good job considering the position we were in when he took the job. The value within the squad now is incomparable to what he inherited. There's no doubt about it we have signed some duds, but that is always going to happen at any club, Even more so one that's trying to recover financially from a club that was completely decimated on the back of back-to-back relegations.

The Striker situation is shit, Everybody knows it and he needs to rectify it urgently. I don't think they are sitting doing fuck all, It's probably as equally frustrating for them as it is for us.

The argument that we haven't brought a Striker in isn't true, We've brought in four that just don't happen to be ready yet. Rusyn on the face of it looked a decent buy but bringing in foreign players who are fairly young is always going to be a risk. It's evident last year we weren't a club that's prepared to pay significant wages in the hope an experienced Striker would be the answer.

From the top 10 scorers in the Championship we had one in the top 10, There was only Armstrong, Vardy, Sergeant, Lath and Adams who were also in the top 10 that play upfront. Every single one of them were either at clubs that have recently been relegated from the PL, or from clubs that reinvested alot of money from a big sale to bring them in. We haven't been able to do that yet as we have managed to retain our best players.

It clearly isn't easy when you don't have a large budget to fall back on..

There are posters doing it man you aren’t speaking for everyone. You then blow smoke up his arse
There we go again, comparing what it used to be like, what’s the point? He has had enough time to stamp his mark on the squad and he has, more failures than successes. Oh woe is me we once paid over the top for Will Grigg we won’t ever overpay again. Well there comes a time when you may have to overpay without putting the club at risk, especially on one major role. Are we going to stop buying centre halves now cos Hjelde is utter shit?
And I never mentioned he was sitting there doing fuck all, another phrase used incorrectly by those that defend him. He’s had 4 windows man, and he still can’t find a ready made striker
All other clubs with smaller budgets than ours manage to find someone ready to start, weird that isn’t it?

 

[Super Ted]

There are posters doing it man you aren’t speaking for everyone. You then blow smoke up his arse
There we go again, comparing what it used to be like, what’s the point? He has had enough time to stamp his mark on the squad and he has, more failures than successes. Oh woe is me we once paid over the top for Will Grigg we won’t ever overpay again. Well there comes a time when you may have to overpay without putting the club at risk, especially on one major role. Are we going to stop buying centre halves now cos Hjelde is utter shit?
And I never mentioned he was sitting there doing fuck all, another phrase used incorrectly by those that defend him. He’s had 4 windows man, and he still can’t find a ready made striker
All other clubs with smaller budgets than ours manage to find someone ready to start, weird that isn’t it?

Have you considered that it might not just be Speakman and it might infact be more KLD /Sartori not giving enough money to bring a certain calibre of striker in?

FWIW we have spent nowhere near a full 2.5 million on Hjelde.

There are posters doing it man you aren’t speaking for everyone. You then blow smoke up his arse
There we go again, comparing what it used to be like, what’s the point? He has had enough time to stamp his mark on the squad and he has, more failures than successes. Oh woe is me we once paid over the top for Will Grigg we won’t ever overpay again. Well there comes a time when you may have to overpay without putting the club at risk, especially on one major role. Are we going to stop buying centre halves now cos Hjelde is utter shit?
And I never mentioned he was sitting there doing fuck all, another phrase used incorrectly by those that defend him. He’s had 4 windows man, and he still can’t find a ready made striker
All other clubs with smaller budgets than ours manage to find someone ready to start, weird that isn’t it?

Are they any good though?

 

[Confucius]

Have you considered that it might not just be Speakman and it might infact be more KLD /Sartori not giving enough money to bring a certain calibre of striker in?

Well you have obviously considered it is their fault. But it hasn’t stopped him spending millions on utter dross in other positions has it?

 

[RGZ]

How can you say Mayenda and Aouchiche are not good enough? It blows my mind. Mayenda had a couple of chances in the first team and look decent, very raw but decent. Young players need time to develop. Aouchiche is clearly a talented player who again didn't get the run in the team to show that. There are some in that list I agree with but if you aren't even going to give a young player more than 1 year at the club to show what they can do what is the point? You may as well never sign young players and just sign experience all the time. Ask Stoke fans what they thought of Jack Clarke, Boro fans what they thought of Patrick Roberts, Rangers fans what they thought of Amad. Players need time.

100% it's embarrassing the amount of people writing off players with no reason to do so

 

[Confucius]

Have you considered that it might not just be Speakman and it might infact be more KLD /Sartori not giving enough money to bring a certain calibre of striker in?

FWIW we have spent nowhere near a full 2.5 million on Hjelde.

Are they any good though?

Better than the ones we have.oh…..
obviously I won’t be able to speak about them all. Just making a point that those clubs feel that they could improve the team so have invested in them. Meanwhile at Speakman towers, nobody is allowed in cos Will Grigg is on the front desk.

 

[Super Ted]

Well you have obviously considered it is their fault. But it hasn’t stopped him spending millions on utter dross in other positions has it?

I think it's collectively an issue between the ownership, the DOF and the scouting team. I'm not pinning the blame solely on Speakman no.

 

[Confucius]

I think it's collectively an issue between the ownership, the DOF and the scouting team. I'm not pinning the blame solely on Speakman no.

The downside of that is it is at the detriment to the club and if Speakman is being held back hen I’m sure he could find another job elsewhere because I certainly wouldn’t hang around in that situation.

 

[RGZ]

Like I’ve said we had one bad shit season last year, they should be allowed to rectify it this summer window that still has a whole month left.

If they don’t do the job then I’m all for them being replaced as it’s inexcusable. But they’ve still got a whole month for me like. While in the championship they had

Summer window 22/23 - Good

Jan Window 22/23 - Good (if Stewart didn’t get injured)

Summer Window 23/24 - Naff

Jan window 23/24 - extra naff

Summer Window 24/25 - Needs more but two canny signings through the door

If they fail to get the striker we need in then that’s 3-2 for the shite windows and I’ll be agreeing with you all

Just think they deserve the chance to rectify it

 

[Super Ted]

The downside of that is it is at the detriment to the club and if Speakman is being held back hen I’m sure he could find another job elsewhere because I certainly wouldn’t hang around in that situation.

Agreed.

 

[Walmo]

Another important thing to factor in when trying to buy a player is that the selling club will always look at the buying club’s situation when deciding on a sale. Because we don’t have even a single serviceable striker, all selling teams will basically have us marked down as “absolutely desperate - hold out for maximum price possible”.

 

[radjee gadjee]

It's the clubs fault there aren't senior strikers and the young lads have had to play, not their own. You can't just write them off based on that.

It's a pre season friendly man and he got an assist Chris Rigg looked absolutely anonymous in league games last season yet there's zero criticism of him.

I must have slept through those games that Rigg was anonymous in last season. Whenever I saw him play he was active, getting stuck in and trying to make things happen.

 

[Alfa]

Another important thing to factor in when trying to buy a player is that the selling club will always look at the buying club’s situation when deciding on a sale. Because we don’t have even a single serviceable striker, all selling teams will basically have us marked down as “absolutely desperate - hold out for maximum price possible”.

And whose fault is that …..

 

[Hongkongphooey]

And whose fault is that …..

I said this ages ago when we were using loans to back up Stewart without investing in young players who could have been learning alongside them. Too little, too late , we brought in 4 strikers who didn't have a clue, not their fault, all down to having no plan for when Stewart left.