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The Safety of Fans in the North Stand


Eeeh look, theres another statement off last year from the club...I bet theres at least half a dozen


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SAFC1962 said:
To me the only sensible place for the visiting fans now is the SE corner.
Can't be -
West, they're probably the best seats, South, singing bit, too many tickets to move
East, don't want them getting the best East seats
North, BCB behind,
NW corner, boxes above
SW corner, impinge on West/South
NE corner - BCB entrance possibly compromised.
Obviously no ST in area that is shut off for family bit, put them there, dunno how many family tickets we've sold but put them in the NS upper & sort out a new family zone for 24/25.
Problem sorted, I thank you 👍
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Aye great. Punish the home fans with shit seats because the away fans act up. Mint idea that
 
tony_not_in_london said:
The question is not how many other stadiums have nets up but how many other clubs have had to deal with missiles being thrown from a great height onto fans below on at least five times this season?

This is an very serious accident waiting to happen.

A net IMPROVES the safety of thousands of spectators sat below the area from which missiles have been thrown consistently and on numerous occasions.

So I cannot imagine a Safety Certificate issued by Sunderland Building Control should be anything other than a formality? Assuming we would get it professionally installed (and nobody suggests fans turn up with their toolkit).

Then I’m not sure on what grounds the EFL could object. Do they have an alternative practical suggestion to ensure fans are safe? Well?
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Steve Neil has already done R&A on a net and it is fine to use.

Only people blocking it is the owners. Though someone on the other thread seems to think it’s being blocked by ‘physics’😂
 
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Anyone else notice this story?

So in the time it has taken SAFC to introduce ineffective searches of away fans and clearer announcements to “please do not throw anything including pyrotechnics”….Feyenoord put a net around their entire ground 😳

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tony_not_in_london said:
Anyone else notice this story?

So in the time it has taken SAFC to introduce ineffective searches of away fans and clearer announcements to “please do not throw anything including pyrotechnics”….Feyenoord put a net around their entire ground 😳

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There you go, they've done it in a matter of weeks. Okay, it's a free standing net rather than a hanging one, but fuck the restricted views, fuck the negative press, fuck the inconvenience for normal fans, fuck the people saying it will catch fire or get birds stuck in it... Just straight in no messing about job done.

Absolutely no reason why we can't act as swift and decisive
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Hasn’t been for all the others but it appears to be controlled by that third party security company that isn’t fit for purpose.


Alpha security

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safccfas said:
The only way anything will be done is if people invade the pitch next time it happens. Parents should walk onto the pitch with their kids. Men and women need to join them. Don’t cause bother, wave arms about or anything daft, don’t do anything else but just stand there on the pitch and point at the away fans and say you’re under threat of being hurt. The ref will have to stop the game and they can’t and won’t arrest people for doing it if it’s done in numbers and it’s on the basis you fear for your safety.
Safety in numbers. If 100s do it it will end the issue almost instantly as the fall out for the club will be massive.
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Your right
 
Hank Scorpio said:
The reality is mate, the club know they could shift the aways to the NEC next season. The council and safety group would approve, but it would cost money. Ultimately they don’t want to spend money
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This is where the clubs own advisers are telling them to put the away fans
Jasper said:
At what point can we just refuse to have away fans?
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The club can do what it wants re fans but the action will be reciprocated. Club are to scared to make a stand
 
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Chewit said:
This is where the clubs own advisers are telling them to put the away fans


The club can do what it wants re fans but the action will be reciprocated. Club are to scared to make a stand
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I agree mate. I think the club are scared to make a stand as they think there will be a backlash.

They are desperate for the whole thing to just disappear.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
I agree mate. I think the club are scared to make a stand as they think there will be a backlash.

They are desperate for the whole thing to just disappear.
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Unfortunately the people making the decisions from their Ivory tower don’t understand fan behaviour and what they are dealing with. They can’t make a decision because they don’t understand risk, health and safety and the consequences of doing nothing.
There are plenty of people telling them what they should do but they are not listening.
 
TAD said:
To be honest there is no point in searching away fans. It just penalises the decent fans..and let's remember there are some. The sort of people who come with the intention of throwing things will just hide them and the stewards don't have the authority to do any sort of really thorough search.. I'd be fuming if I went to an event and had to empty my pockets. The whole approach or lack of, is an actual joke.
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Here’s a version of recent events, can’t say it’s 100% right, but it will be close enough :
v Hull City flare thrower was a boy told to throw it by his father, who also told him to carry it in. Security dont check boys.
Caught on CCTV. They were arrested by Hull police.
V Birmingham several Birmingham coaches were delayed by an accident. To get them in quick these fans were not searched. The flare came from a section where the CCTV cameras are the inadequate. No one identified or arrested for flare.
 
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