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NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

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ned_werby said:
What's your beef with Man City? Not owned by a nation state, have delivered on their promises for local/regional regeneration, not full blooded terrorists. Is it because they sneaked in before ffp and are now one of continental europe's club giants? Or is it just 'whataboutism'?
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Father Jack Hackett said:
and surely you understand this is the epitome of worrabootism?

PSG - awful, manufactured club though they have very little relevance to our game. Yours is a proud, traditional big club in the English game being used and abused.
As has been pointed-out, Man City's ownership is very different to yours.
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If you two want to argue that City and PSG aren't sportswashing vehicles then go right ahead. I think they are and as such are pertinent to the topic of this thread and this conversation, especially when Exile is using one as an example of sticking two fingers up to sportswashing.

For what it's worth I don't like the term whataboutism. Just seems to defend blatant hipocrisy these days, and people here are using it to defend PSGs sportswashing in the sportswashing thread. Weird behavior
 
Finished 2nd not so long ago? Did they fuck, you’re right Eddie you’re not an expert Hahahahaahha

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Mills and Boon said:
If you two want to argue that City and PSG aren't sportswashing vehicles then go right ahead. I think they are and as such are pertinent to the topic of this thread and this conversation, especially when Exile is using one as an example of sticking two fingers up to sportswashing.

For what it's worth I don't like the term whataboutism. Just seems to defend blatant hipocrisy these days, and people here are using it to defend PSGs sportswashing in the sportswashing thread. Weird behavior
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At what point have I said either aren't sportswashing exercises?
PSG were only formed in 1970 and are a plastic club imo. Newcastle are very much thr opposite
Mackem2017 said:
Finished 2nd not so long ago? Did they fuck, you’re right Eddie you’re not an expert Hahahahaahha

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26 years ago was it? Its like us in 1999 saying we'd won the cup "not so long ago".

It'll tune into the dafties who are still trapped in that time mind
 
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Mills and Boon said:
When you use the term whataboutery when they're mentioned in here, as if they're not relevant to the sportswashing discussion
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Whataboutery: the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.

Which is exactly what you did. Man City are not state owned and PSG are a plastic club with zero relevance to our game. Both have been used for PR reasons (Man City maybe less so).
 
Mills and Boon said:
For what it's worth I don't like the term whataboutism. Just seems to defend blatant hipocrisy these days, and people here are using it to defend PSGs sportswashing in the sportswashing thread. Weird behavior
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:lol:

A couple of days ago you said you would never engage in whataboutism. That was about half an hour after you'd been whatabouting. Now you're at it again.

You've forgotten which lies you've told yet again you thick ****.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
Whataboutery: the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.

Which is exactly what you did. Man City are not state owned and PSG are a plastic club with zero relevance to our game. Both have been used for PR reasons (Man City maybe less so).
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I raised the same issue. If anything, it's Exile deflecting from PSGs sportswashing. But of course you'd not see it like that
Pants said:
:lol:

A couple of days ago you said you would never engage in whataboutism. That was about half an hour after you'd been whatabouting. Now you're at it again.

You've forgotten which lies you've told yet again you thick ****.
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I don't think you have a firm grasp of what the term means, just like Father Jack up there
 
Mills and Boon said:
I raised the same issue. If anything, it's Exile deflecting from PSGs sportswashing. But of course you'd not see it like that
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Eh? PSG are a French side, based in France who, the vast majority of English clubs have never been on the same pitch as. They also have about the same tradition as MK Dons.

You support one of English football's bastions. A club with 130 years of existence, built on a foundation of passionate, hard-working fans. You are also our nearest and dearest with fans of both living and working together all over the country. Why should Exile wish to deflect from PSG anyway?

I've also never seen a single post in favour of anything PSG do on this messageboard.
 
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Father Jack Hackett said:
Eh? PSG are a French side, based in France who, the vast majority of English clubs have never been on the same pitch as. They also have about the same tradition as MK Dons.

You support one of English football's bastions. A club with 130 years of existence, built on a foundation of passionate, hard-working fans. You are also our nearest and dearest with fans of both living and working together all over the country. Why should Exile wish to deflect from PSG anyway?
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What's the league the club plays in got to do with anything? Sportswashing is sportswashing.

Exile is so caught up in having a pop at Newcastle (the real reason for his obsession, sportswashing is just something he's latched onto otherwise he'd have been on this campaign long before the takeover) that he's happy to claim that PSG aren't sportswashing themselves
 
Exile has already said he'd stop posting about anything Saudi Arabia have done the second they sell Newcastle United.

Motives seem pretty clear to me. Completely driven by jealousy with no real concern about anything Saudi Arabia have done in the past or will do in the future.
 
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Mills and Boon said:
What's the league the club plays in got to do with anything? Sportswashing is sportswashing.

Exile is so caught up in having a pop at Newcastle (the real reason for his obsession, sportswashing is just something he's latched onto otherwise he'd have been on this campaign long before the takeover) that he's happy to claim that PSG aren't sportswashing themselves
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If you don't get that then there's little point continuing. The same reason we aren't talking about LIV Golf in the same way. Yes its sportswashing but this is a bastion of our national game being used for it.

I'm certainly no fan of Newcastle United though have mates who are. I do however, hugely respect your tradition and fanbase.
You are the one using PSG as a comparison where to me, there is no comparison between the two clubs.
 
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If you don't get that then there's little point continuing. The same reason we aren't talking about LIV Golf in the same way. Yes its sportswashing but this is a bastion of our national game being used for it.

I'm certainly no fan of Newcastle United though have mates who are. I do however, hugely respect your tradition and fanbase. y
You are the one using PSG as a comparison where to me, there is no comparison between the two clubs.
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Exile used them as a comparison on this occasion, to claim that Ekitike choosing them over us was putting two fingers up to sportswashing. I'm only pointing out that PSG are in fact a sportswashing vehicle which proves that Exile's take is pretty wonky and shows that sportswashing is a secondary consideration because knocking Newcastle takes priority in his thinking.

I've also seen LIV brought up in here loads of times, and rightly so. It's an example of sportswashing, doesn't matter that it's a different sport. Doesn't matter that PSG are a French team
 
Exile has been hoisted by his own petard, not that some of you can see it even when it's clearly pointed out to you. Or maybe you just don't want to see it. Either way
 
Mills and Boon said:
Exile used them as a comparison on this occasion, to claim that Ekitike choosing them over us was putting two fingers up to sportswashing. I'm only pointing out that PSG are in fact a sportswashing vehicle which proves that Exile's take is pretty wonky and shows that sportswashing is a secondary consideration because knocking Newcastle takes priority in his thinking.

I've also seen LIV brought up in here loads of times, and rightly so. It's an example of sportswashing, doesn't matter that it's a different sport. Doesn't matter that PSG are a French team
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Of course it does, they have all but zero relevance to the game in this country. Its like using an NFL team. Do you not think NUFC are worth a million PSGs? I do.

Our game, is far from perfect as it is and even with loads of dodgy foreign ownership was still "ours".
Your traditional club are owned by blokes who funded the biggest terrorist attack in history man. That to me, regardless of who I support is a shame, if nothing else and I'd say the same if it was Swansea or Stockport, though obviously not anywhere near as often as your club is 10 miles from mine.

I obvioualy don't want you to become hugely successful for obvious reasons but (hand on heart) would be far more jealous if you were still owned by John Hall and it happened than these monsters.
 
Mills and Boon said:
Exile has been hoisted by his own petard, not that some of you can see it even when it's clearly pointed out to you. Or maybe you just don't want to see it. Either way
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What because he said he wouldnt tweet about Saudi when they get out of football? Maybe he wants to protect our beautiful game? He does mention City and Chelsea too btw
 
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