Pugs - Absolutely knackered



Kevsgreat said:
Known a few people who've had them and they've all had eye issues. Same with those who've had French Bulldogs.

Edit: the dogs have had eye issues, not the owners. The owners have issues with vets bills.
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Frenchies are brilliant mind. My missus (no) has one, and she's as daft as a brush and incredibly soppy. Only dog I've ever met with ADHD

No eye problems, but did have to have an operation to help her breathe easier
 
sonson said:
Ours was a rescue so I've no idea about his breeding. He actually lived the average amount for one tbh but its just the pain and indignity of the last year that hurts. The car broke down on his final day as well so I had to carry all 25kg of him about a mile to the vet for the injection.
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Heartbreaking that, mate. The one in the picture actually leapt into the back of the car on her final day - to her, the car meant the beach, and she loved it there. She had developed a bony growth in her chest cavity that stopped her from eating properly and pressed on her windpipe when she lay down, stopping her breathing - she had to sleep propped up just to breathe. Vet said it was most likely inoperable due to it's proximity to her heart and other vital organs and she probably wouldn't survive any operation to remove it - she was only 9 years old.

She and the one before were rescue dogs as well but it was pretty obvious from the outset that they weren't show dogs as they had the flatter back associated with the working dogs.

The first two were definitely from working stock as we had all the papers for them.
 
mux said:
It's a fallacy to suggest that pugs are unhealthy. They simply aren't.
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Pugs are in a group of breeds classed as 'Category Three' by The Kennel Club. This is the highest category of health concerns due to their physical conformation (the way they look) - That's from the PDSA incidentally.

Love you and your billboards, but I'm afraid you're not quite correct on this score.

Now, in the interest of fairness, here are the category 3 level dogs
Bloodhound, Bulldog, Chow Chow, Dogue de Bordeaux, German Shepherd Dog, Mastiff, Neapolitan Mastiff, Pekingese, Pug, St Bernard and Shar Pei

Naturally not all of those will have BOAS, others may have joint issues in time perhaps, but I would argue that being unable to eat/breath probably trumps that.

I hope your lucky streak continues and you look after more on the healthy end of the scale.
 
mux said:
The vast majority of them don't suffer though. We don't breed them of course, we have rescued 2 of the 3. We do a lot of work with a pug welfare charity, fostering pugs for short periods of time or just picking them up and taking them to a new home. None of the ones we have ever had have suffered with their breathing.

Now unless we've just been really lucky, the prevalence of breathing issues must not be as high as is being made out.

Nobody is complaining about large breed dogs that have high risk of their legs going before they reach 10. Why not?

It's a fallacy to suggest that pugs are unhealthy. They simply aren't.
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Denial & Cognitive Dissonance personified
 
We rescued a Jug (Pug / jack Russell cross). She has a pug look but does have a snout.

When we emigrated we had a call the night before we went from the airline saying they couldn't take her as she was a pug. We went to the airport anyway as the line kept dropping and ended up speaking to the flight manager. She was allowed on but we were basically told that they don't take flat nose breeds as there is a higher risk of them dying in the flight
 
Keawyeds said:
Pugs are in a group of breeds classed as 'Category Three' by The Kennel Club. This is the highest category of health concerns due to their physical conformation (the way they look) - That's from the PDSA incidentally.

Love you and your billboards, but I'm afraid you're not quite correct on this score.

Now, in the interest of fairness, here are the category 3 level dogs
Bloodhound, Bulldog, Chow Chow, Dogue de Bordeaux, German Shepherd Dog, Mastiff, Neapolitan Mastiff, Pekingese, Pug, St Bernard and Shar Pei

Naturally not all of those will have BOAS, others may have joint issues in time perhaps, but I would argue that being unable to eat/breath probably trumps that.

I hope your lucky streak continues and you look after more on the healthy end of the scale.
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My sister has one and she’s lovely, we all love her to bits, but she is constantly at the vets. It’s one thing after another, I would never have one.
 
RichB said:
We rescued a Jug (Pug / jack Russell cross). She has a pug look but does have a snout.

When we emigrated we had a call the night before we went from the airline saying they couldn't take her as she was a pug. We went to the airport anyway as the line kept dropping and ended up speaking to the flight manager. She was allowed on but we were basically told that they don't take flat nose breeds as there is a higher risk of them dying in the flight
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Bloody hell :eek:
Amber said:
My sister has one and she’s lovely, we all love her to bits, but she is constantly at the vets. It’s one thing after another, I would never have one.
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If I was bein cynical I'd say it must be a vets dream, but it won't be. They won't want to see animals suffering when there's little they can do about it.
 
Keawyeds said:
Bloody hell :eek:


If I was bein cynical I'd say it must be a vets dream, but it won't be. They won't want to see animals suffering when there's little they can do about it.
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No it’s not you are right. They said it’s the same problems they see over and over again with this breed and it’s not fair on the dogs. I think my sister was swayed into a pug because it was what my niece wanted. I would have just said no like!
 
Not spent much time with pugs myself but know a couple of Frenchies. I really don't see the attraction in them. Sound like asthmatic pigs most of the time. Short fat heavy things. Tails docked as well so the bullet hole is constantly rubbing off your furniture. Nah. Quite loving but not something I'd ever have. Each to their own of course.
 
RichB said:
We rescued a Jug (Pug / jack Russell cross). She has a pug look but does have a snout.

When we emigrated we had a call the night before we went from the airline saying they couldn't take her as she was a pug. We went to the airport anyway as the line kept dropping and ended up speaking to the flight manager. She was allowed on but we were basically told that they don't take flat nose breeds as there is a higher risk of them dying in the flight
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Fun fact: Jugs are sometimes called Retro Pugs because they usually lose the flat face and have a bit muzzle, allowing their eyes to pop back in their skulls and look less like they have chronic piles all the time

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Have you heard of a retro pug breed yet? Retro pug, a.k.a Retromop or jug dog, is the original pug. They had relatively longer snouts back in the day.
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