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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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southstander said:
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He is sharing a few of the videos from fbkinfo as there's more protest videos from a few hours ago when you scroll down their page.

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It goes a bit quiet when this bloke is carted away but I don't blame them!

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The little old biddy who got carted away by the police last week is back again! 😎

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Looks like a bad crash this as it's a police paddy wagon that supposedly had detainees in it! No news on any casualties though.

 
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MarcoGoalo said:
From @christogrozev (twitter)

After randomly claiming Ukraine was working on a nuclear weapon (in the leakiest of countries), now Russia 's @mod_russia comes up with something even less plausible: they "found evidence" Ukraine and USA wee developing weaponized plague bacteria at a super secret lab near Kyiv.
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What worries me about crap like this, and I really do mostly keep calm and carry on, is that he’s doing it to soften up the Russian people in advance of a very nasty escalation, including the worst possible. We’ve already seen that millions of them believe what state propaganda tells them
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Your daily reminder that the government wishes to make this a criminal offence. The UK government, that is
 
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Bulwell said:
Russia has a declining population and an economy the size of Spain. They'll need to realise at some point they're not a big player on the world stage but just a regional power.

They're a cultured European country, it would be best for them and Europe if they embraced Europe rather than at loggerheads with it. Maybe that's what will happen this century?
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I sincerely hope so, their people seem to have had a shit hand dealt to them for centuries.
 
Bulwell said:
Russia has a declining population and an economy the size of Spain. They'll need to realise at some point they're not a big player on the world stage but just a regional power.

They're a cultured European country, it would be best for them and Europe if they embraced Europe rather than at loggerheads with it. Maybe that's what will happen this century?
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Completely.

Watching some of the protests in Moscow and St Petersburg I have seen what the cities look like on the ground for the first time. They look like fantastic places to visit. And the countryside and mountains would surely be great for hiking, cycling, Skiiing etc.

If during the next few decades Russia was reintegrated into the normal world again then there is no reason it couldn’t be a thriving tourism destination. That would help their economy too.
 
offmenut said:
the sad thing is the fact that the pilots and lots of the Russian soldiers who die might not even want to be there.
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Soldiers on the ground you can see how they'd end up not really knowing where they're going. Little training, get in a truck and follow the convoy.

Does the same apply to pilots? Surely it takes a great deal more training, they know where they're going, and if they're firing missiles, dropping bombs or shooting at other planes they know what they're doing?
 
UpTheDuff said:
Completely.

Watching some of the protests in Moscow and St Petersburg I have seen what the cities look like on the ground for the first time. They look like fantastic places to visit. And the countryside and mountains would surely be great for hiking, cycling, Skiiing etc.

If during the next few decades Russia was reintegrated into the normal world again then there is no reason it couldn’t be a thriving tourism destination. That would help their economy too.
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Being on the edge of Europe they have been inherently paranoid of the rest of Europe for a very long time. Maybe social media could help to break down many barriers.
 
offmenut said:
the sad thing is the fact that the pilots and lots of the Russian soldiers who die might not even want to be there.
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The pilots will all be time served professionals who know what they’re signed up for. Some of the cannon fodder hoyed in on the ground, probably less so.
Kevsgreat said:
Soldiers on the ground you can see how they'd end up not really knowing where they're going. Little training, get in a truck and follow the convoy.

Does the same apply to pilots? Surely it takes a great deal more training, they know where they're going, and if they're firing missiles, dropping bombs or shooting at other planes they know what they're doing?
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Or what he said ^
 
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I can’t get my head around why the west are trying to convince ourselves the Russian soldiers don’t want to be there.
Maybe it takes away the reality of the destruction.
 
tiptoad said:
A lot them will have been killing civilians in air strikes in Syria and they're happy enough to do it in Ukraine too. They deserve no sympathy when they're shot down.
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It’s where they practiced. They have had very few air miles because of cost. The lucky ones got test seats with Sukhoi etc so when they went to Syria it was a chance to get the miles in. Iirc a lot of their munitions are dropped not to dissimilar to how they were doing it in ww2. They have tiny amounts of guided/precision stuff.

That pilot captured yesterday is pictured with both Putin and Assad. He will have known exactly what he was doing. Fuck him and fuck them.
 
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Bulwell said:
Russia has a declining population and an economy the size of Spain. They'll need to realise at some point they're not a big player on the world stage but just a regional power.

They're a cultured European country, it would be best for them and Europe if they embraced Europe rather than at loggerheads with it. Maybe that's what will happen this century?
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Good Post.
 
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