Professor Yaffle
Central Defender
Where have you seen that mate? I can't see it anywhere.Jets fighting in the Skies over Ukraine. Imagine witnessing that man
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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)
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Striker
The Truth
Midfield
Their pet tortoise Donald iirc?
Harry Angstrom
Striker
Do what you want. I'll just stick you on ignore for a few days.
Because this is a thread about an existential crisis in Europe that is an excellent place to keep abreast of what is going on. I'll stick you on ignore too as I don't want to post about it anymore.
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errant
Striker
sadly some can't even accept buyers remorse either... its baffling that some can't see the threads of russian aggression and their own vote cast over five years ago.
Sorry to hear that, marra. That will leave a hell of a hole with you.
I know it’s early days, but do you have plans to get another?
Lankester Merrin
Striker
Stick me on ignore as long as you like
The Russians believed that the Western response would be divided and disjointed
Because they had worked hard to make Western alliances and governments divided and disjointed
Brexit and Trump were a big part of that
Pretending it's not that doesn't make it go away
To think we thought FIFA is the most corrupt sporting body on the planet,
stand up the IOC
The IIHF are up there, look into Rene Fasel (their former Vice President) and his fascination with Putin.
Lankester Merrin
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They don't want to see it. Same as they don't want to see Russian interference in the 2016 US election, or the millions given by oligarchs to the Tory party, or Boris's close friendship with Lebvedev.
They would rather not know and keep their sense of identity and security that think too hard about difficult truths
Osklen
Winger
I keep reading that Russia have miscalculated the Ukraine resolve, however I’m beginning to think that this was always part of Putin’s plan to send it a smaller more inexperienced and less violent, dare I say it sacrificial force to try and roll in to Ukraine and take control, with population, buildings and infrastructure intact.
With Ukraine’s resolve being so strong we are now seeing Putin’s Plan B to send in the heavy artillery and more experienced forces. Leads me to think that the Russians were aware of Ukraine inability to challenge its large convoys all along and that the Russian tactics aren’t quite as archaic as first thought? Clearly the UN sanctions may not have formed part of his plans.
I have no military experience nor an enthusiast so could be well off the mark, but feels like Russia maybe slightly more in control than they are being given credit for which if true is slightly more worrying.
With Ukraine’s resolve being so strong we are now seeing Putin’s Plan B to send in the heavy artillery and more experienced forces. Leads me to think that the Russians were aware of Ukraine inability to challenge its large convoys all along and that the Russian tactics aren’t quite as archaic as first thought? Clearly the UN sanctions may not have formed part of his plans.
I have no military experience nor an enthusiast so could be well off the mark, but feels like Russia maybe slightly more in control than they are being given credit for which if true is slightly more worrying.
Ah, yes.
errant
Striker
i hope it sticks together, will be interesting to see how long the likes of Hungary stay onside for? i could imagine that when the fringes begin to waver they'll start looking for their own individual advantages, i just wonder if Russia will go on the charm offensive, or get the even bigger shittier sticks out?
Aye, probably best you do stick him on ignore if you’re of such soft morals.
Better to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears, etc.
errant
Striker
im with you on that, its possible that everyone having a cameraphone and posting it all over the place might be a new kind of a 'fog of war'. im surprised that russia havent closed down the IT infra that allows ordinary videos to get out to the west, its almost like they want people to think they're doing shite... who knows.
MonkeyLove
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Energoden is worth keeping an eye on. It’s home to the largest nuclear plant in Europe. Capacity many times higher then Chernobyl.
Russia tried to enter the city earlier but were pushed back by protestors but will return later. Hopefully they don’t start throwing artillery around this area like they are elsewhere.
IAEA saying they are gravely concerned
Russia tried to enter the city earlier but were pushed back by protestors but will return later. Hopefully they don’t start throwing artillery around this area like they are elsewhere.
IAEA saying they are gravely concerned
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Harry Angstrom
Striker
Time will tell. I assumed they would have been in Kiev with days. There was a battle for the airport on Day 2 and I assumed it would have been game over once they could fly troops etc in. That was repulsed fairly easily.
I have no idea what is going to happen but my heart goes out to those brave people in the country, I fear the worst and hope for the best.
Lankester Merrin
Striker
I think it is interesting that Hungary have stuck with the EU line rather than with Russias
I think they realise that after this Russia will be weaker and the EU will be stronger.
Kenna
Striker
Would take a completely incompetent lunatic to do something like that, Putin likes to portray the madman but he’s smarter than that I reckon.
Most countries would want a swift and quick invasion with minimal losses especially knowing sanctions will be coming there way, maybe he thought they’d be a walkover but I doubt he intentionally sacrificed people, I highly doubt he cares about the people he has lost and it more bothered about the expensive equipment he is losing.
Nope, the exact opposite regardless of age will not support the regime or the war. The regime has been losing support for a number of years now, it was reasonably popular but as time has gone on, from what I understand, the greed of the regime is now getting on peoples tits.
Regarding age, older people in Russia are capable of using new fangled electronic equipment you know, this isn’t some third world backward country we’re talking about when it comes to western Russia.
cfg
Striker
Haha, you think what is going on is not political in any way or doesn’t it fit your warped narrative?
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