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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Cow said:
It’s not about being better….it’s about what suits the culture. For a long time Russians have been happy being Russian under a dictator, yes, there’s things they’d like to change….exactly the same way we’d like to change cheers in things within our democracy. No system is perfect or better than another. Once we accept that and stop trying to enforce our way of life on others then we may get peace.
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Have they?
Or are they oppressed to the point they have no choice?
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Cow said:
And how has democracy gone in the west? How many primeministers have we had that we haven’t elected? Trump did a cracking job didn’t he? People hang onto democracy like it’s a golden f***ing ticket to shangri la, it’s not. In this day and age it’s a tool for corruption, power grabs and controlling the masses. Unfortunately. Like communism, in principle it’s good but can also be manipulated by greed.
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Exactly. Putin would say he was democratically elected.
 
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gazc24 said:
Commited a few war crimes and mass hostage slaughters didn't they as well, ballet and a school spring to mind
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Russia ransacked Chechnya for daring to oppose them 20 yor back.

Puppet governor, starvation, mass imprisonment and death on a biblical scale.

If there's any justice a Chechen would the one to turn the lights off for little Vlad
 
I see Mariupol is under siege. Heard last week on radio that it provides the Port of Sunderland with over 20pc of its business.
 
Mackem DJ said:
People need to be wary of what they are liking and RT’ing and linking.

In this warped society we live in there are an insane amount of people in the world who will type and post ANYTHING in the hope it gets likes and reactions. We see that on a daily basis on this forum but it’s especially relevant to this war in the Ukraine. So much duff info / rehashed videos of old conflict etc being posted on the internet.
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Yes, and thank you for mentioning this topic.

There is now a sticky atop this forum.

Thread 'Ukraine conflict and fake news' https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/ukraine-conflict-and-fake-news.1573619/
 
brandon said:
Which is a lovely thought, but we rely on our politicians to do the right thing - which is even more important during a war (or a global pandemic) than it would be in peace time.

That is why it is important that we continue to discuss these issues. Continue to call out the corruption, incompetence and negligence.
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I've stopped asking people to keep the thread on topic because the first two actually did but the third poster had a similar attitude to you. This thread has been valuable to me in the last week and it is much better if you don't have to wade through petty nonsense off topic (usually but not exclusively) bashing the Government. Bashing the government is fine but all some people are asking is to keep the thread about the Ukraine and what is happening to those poor people.
 
cosmicchris00 said:
There are multiple ground and air attacks on cities with population circa 1M+, also urban warfare in these same cities.

The deaths on both sides will be well into the thousands by now - there are accounts from a doctor in Dnipro of hospitals running out of space for military dead from both sides (many hundreds).

To summarise; it'll be an unimaginable bloodbath (unless you've served in the forces).

I'm not a religious man but have spent many hours considering fate of the poor souls cowering in basements or foxholes.

I just hope the madness stops soon
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It won't sadly
Putin doesn't give a ff about his people suffering, never mind Ukrainians.
The ruble can crash another 50pc and he still won't back down.
The man is a maniac and he needs to be ousted by whatever means possible, even murder
 
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