Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[jcrossan]

Same focus issues for me and the last time was Covid went it started kicking off, especially in Italy

Gone from constantly monitoring covid numbers to doing the same with this situation.

War and Plague..two horsemen of the apocalypse

 

[look out piano]

Having gave this considerable thought over the weekend, I am now convinced that provided an act of God doesn't curtail my existence..as a man in their mid 30's I will live to see Putin hang for this invasion. He may , of course, pre-empt it with his own bullet.

There is no conceivable alternative, in my view.

I'd like to see him strung up in red square like what happens to cartel dudes in Mexico.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Any mod able to comment why this isn't in the normal forum?

I don't talk politics crap but I like to read and share about what is going on in this situation. Aye it may have some political jibber jabber now and then but surely overall many people who won't even venture into the Politics forum may well read the thread to stay up to date and join in if it was in the normal SMB forum?

I think anyone who wants to read it would easily deduce where it is to be honest. One additional click won’t break your computer

 

[Charmless Man]

Really find this hard to watch. While I don’t think for a minute he didn’t know what he was doing there the bloke is quite clearly shitting it.

I find the footage hard to watch but objectively, he knew what he was doing there and my sympathy is limited.

 

[janey]

Conscription mostley

Is that the full army or are the young ones conscription and the older ones force members that signed up? Like when people in the UK had to do national service as opposed to those that signed up?

 

[Botchie]

The whole thing is a strange set up. Chechnya fought two wars to gain and then unsuccessfully maintain independence from Russia, during the second one the father of the current leader of Chechnya switched sides and offered to help Russia, was made president of the Chechen republic and then got assassinated by Chechen islamists and now his son is the head of the Chechen Republic.

Kadyrov is by all accounts not a “nice” person.

Good knowledge, marra. It shows how complex the whole thing is and isn't as straightforward as turning up and fighting them.

 

[johnhp]

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[Deleted member 48353]

I'd like to see him strung up in red square like what happens to cartel dudes in Mexico.

His own people overthrow him and hang him

 

[Viper]

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[bobster999]

There was FAR worse footage than that sadly.

oh I know, that was just an example

 

[look out piano]

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Greek folks getting killed is fucked up, they'll be fuming.

 

[Helvellyn]

If he had attacked a NATO country, maybe. I think it's more likely he'd be killed by his own men. Attacking a NATO country means the US gets involved, which means swift escalation to nuclear.

I'm not comparing Putin to Hitler (though there are parallels indeed) but if Germany had atomic weapons of the kind used by the US on Japan, I suspect he would have launched them before killing himself.

If Putin is backed into a corner and sees death or imprisonment as his only future, he may well go nuclear.

I think he will hang by his own people to be clear, what he is doing now is condemning his own people to the most harsh and brutal conditions...and it's simply a different world we live in to the 20th century where he could control the narrative around that, he will be brought to heel regardless of what he says.

Regarding intelligence, everything we have seen so far is that the irrespective of the political leadership on this mess, the intelligence agencies can see what is going on way before it happens. Our intelligence has been pristine. Russia would surely have anything it had to defend taken away from it if Putin was that way inclined.

What is more interesting to me is how deep rooted western intelligence is within the Kremlin, outstanding!!

 

[Botchie]

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The first reply, we need to be careful with these pictures. I hate to say it, but Ukraine are putting a lot of propaganda out.

 

[GingerNick]

Conscripts shouldn't be deployed apparently, only full time contracted soldiers, seems the conscripts were told they were actually going for training, then entire units of conscripts have been told they are now full time contracted soldiers without their permission, it's why the first things prisoners want to do is phone home as they all had their mobiles taken off them so they couldn't tell people what happened to them

 

[SAFC7391]

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Class

 

[Frijj]

I think he will hang by his own people to be clear, what he is doing now is condemning his own people to the most harsh and brutal conditions...and it's simply a different world we live in to the 20th century where he could control the narrative around that, he will be brought to heel regardless of what he says.

Regarding intelligence, everything we have seen so far is that the irrespective of the political leadership on this mess, the intelligence agencies can see what is going on way before it happens. Our intelligence has been pristine. Russia would surely have anything it had to defend taken away from it if Putin was that way inclined.

What is more interesting to me is how deep rooted western intelligence is within the Kremlin, outstanding!!

I hope you're right. A democratic uprising in Russia to rid them of Putin and his corruption would do the world a lot of good.

As for intelligence, the US must have moles at the very highest levels. Putin must be worried about that.

 

[HellsBells]

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There you go @CEF.

 

[Baloo]

China only wants one thing, to sell to all corners of the world, without exception. They will sit on the fence all the way, and will trade with whoever is left at the end of this war, it's all they do and all they want to do, nothing else matters to them but money.

China will be loving this. They are being praised for not supporting Putin.

The third superpower is becoming weaker by the day.

 

[Deleted member 48353]

China will be loving this. They are being praised for not supporting Putin.

The third superpower is becoming weaker by the day.

And then they were two

 

[janey]

There you go @CEF.

he will still come back with a pointless weasly sickening defence.