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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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sonson said:
2 means more than one so yes, multiple countries. Most countries have Invaded 0 countries. Russia is invading its second just now, so no big deal right? They've some way to go before they kill as many civilians as the wars we started in those 2 countries.

Russia is at war with the Ukraine.

The UK has been (is) one of the biggest benefactors of and donors to the Russian state in the past decade.

Wars are international now. They effect multiple nations. The fallout of those 2 wars is still being legislated against by this current government. Right now refugees from wars We started are coming over here and our government is making it hard for them to do so.

Will these decisions made around the victims of our wars be applied to the victims of a war started by one of our governments major financial and Infrastructiinal partners?

If you can't see how the two are related, thats fine but it's pretty obvious and far from a hot take.
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My god its like a Russian bot account,

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect.

You missed the point, We had no choice due to the article 5 treaty in NATO but to help the USA in Afghanistan, all NATO members helped in one way or another, it was an act after a NATO member was attacked. Its simple really.

Just because we were working with Russia isnt the issue, we have condemned his attack, So what if we traded with them in the past, its what is happening now thats important, Russia has broken the treaty to safe guard Ukraine's borders, not us, not the USA , just Russia. Russia lied about working on diplomacy while moving troops into place to attack on many fronts, Putin was always going to attack no matter what, we can see that clearly now.

Do you know our current policy with regards safe guarding Ukraine citizens?

You do understand how stupid your sounding, Russia was trading, investing and working with most of the developed world, and it was encouraged to make sure we didn't slip back to another cold war, but Putin has invaded another country, its how we react how thats important and unlike Germany, Italy and a few others we have condemned it and started the ball rolling with sanctions, I hope we ramp the sanctions up as we go.

But you know this and are posting a load of crap to deflect from the issue.

Russia has attacked an European country for no other reason to split it up, cause a change in that countries government and to stop the free will of that country in have closer ties to NATO and the EU.
 

Peaknutt said:
Good stuff, make it as costly for the Russians as possible. If enough body bags come back to Moscow (like with the Soviets in Afghanistan) then Putin has a problem on his hands.

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he learnt that doesn't play well, by all accounts he is burning the bodies in Ukraine, he will have a very tight control on the information I guess.
 
chrismisterx said:
My god its like a Russian bot account,

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect.

You missed the point, We had no choice due to the article 5 treaty in NATO but to help the USA in Afghanistan, all NATO members helped in one way or another, it was an act after a NATO member was attacked. Its simple really.

Just because we were working with Russia isnt the issue, we have condemned his attack, So what if we traded with them in the past, its what is happening now thats important, Russia has broken the treaty to safe guard Ukraine's borders, not us, not the USA , just Russia. Russia lied about working on diplomacy while moving troops into place to attack on many fronts, Putin was always going to attack no matter what, we can see that clearly now.

Do you know our current policy with regards safe guarding Ukraine citizens?

You do understand how stupid your sounding, Russia was trading, investing and working with most of the developed world, and it was encouraged to make sure we didn't slip back to another cold war, but Putin has invaded another country, its how we react how thats important and unlike Germany, Italy and a few others we have condemned it and started the ball rolling with sanctions, I hope we ramp the sanctions up as we go.

But you know this and are posting a load of crap to deflect from the issue.

Russia has attacked an European country for no other reason to split it up, cause a change in that countries government and to stop the free will of that country in have closer ties to NATO and the EU.
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You are turning into one of my favourite posters and have a way with words that seem to relay my thought better than I ever could 👍
 
Putin has now directly threatened Finland and Sweden against joining NATO, this in top of the threat to any other country helping Ukraine during this time.

Pretty chilling stuff, and I'm genuinely worried Putin wants his place in history, whatever the price.

If this starts to go badly for Russia, and I think it might, I can see him ordering nuclear strikes. Whether his military team will go through with it on his orders is another question, but I honestly think we've never been closer to a nuclear war.
 
Peaknutt said:
Good stuff, make it as costly for the Russians as possible. If enough body bags come back to Moscow (like with the Soviets in Afghanistan) then Putin has a problem on his hands.

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Well done France if it lot too late.

All eyes on the European elephant in the room.
 
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