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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)
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Wild Card
Striker
I certainly think it is all about his legacy now. Which is even more concerning, if he gets shown up on the battlefield, who knows what his final act will entail. Im sure Russia are sitting on a planet buster of a nuclear bomb "The Tsar Bomb" or something like that.
Hopefully his inner circle bump him off and he goes down in history as Vlad the impaled.
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Rustie Trombone
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If it happened here in the UK would you fight?
You have to put yourself in the place of the people of Ukraine
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Striker
expect nothing less from a striker
look out piano
Striker
Really upsetting waking up to this this morning, I feel so sorry for the Ukrainian people FFS.
It could end up Russia and China v the rest of the world........that is a terrifying thought.
It could end up Russia and China v the rest of the world........that is a terrifying thought.
The Truth
Midfield
If your boiler breaks is your next step to burn the house down?
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Deleted member 45378
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But Russia will not stop at Ukraine...we all know that deep down...it will be the smaller ex soviet countries next....Putin is an incredibly dangerous individual ....yes North Korea have nothing but they have a lunatic as a leader .....what's happening today is the very start of some terrifying knock on effects unless something is done .....yet we freeze bank accounts ...
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coyneeee_s
Winger
I'm 31 so yeah. But there's been photos and news articles about 79 year olds training. Not think that's extreme?
chrismisterx
Striker
Yes, was a lot of unrest at the time, problem was at the start the UK thought Hitler had a point and that Germany was treated badly with the Treaty of Versailles, so we kind of accepted Germany moving back in to the Rhineland, Again Austria didn't set many alarm bells ( People like Churchill, started to become very vocal at this point, at the risks and threats and were wanting us to rearm ) to the masses it was seen the German Austrians just re-joining the Germanic nation, it was when Hitler, started talking about the German parts of Poland and Czech republic, that public opinion was truly split and the bells of war started to ring out, it was our war wariness that swayed the day, we did everything to avoid war and all it day was kick the can down the road a few years, some people thought once the Germans reclaimed what was thought of "there lands" it would end.
Add to the fact the SS sent undercover people into the "German speaking areas" to attack the native German folk living there, "false flag" attacks, it give Hitler more politic power to move in under the guise of protection, within a year of that everyone knew Hitlers true goals and he had made massive gains just by the allies being weak, even when we said attack Poland its war, Hitler himself didn't believe us as we had been so weak and backed down so often.
The people in Germany who resisted Hitler were pretty much removed and it started with the night of the long knifes ( I think thats what it was called ) after that it just wasn't safe to be too vocal about policy in Germany, but quite a few Germans not in the country were very vocal about him and his evil ways, but he also had a lot of support too.
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Rustie Trombone
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Striker
How to respond when one of the biggest, most powerful countries in the world is a gangster state run by thugs is an incredibly difficult question.
To take them on militarily means WW3 and enormous death, destruction, poverty and misery. We'd get all that win or lose, and it's far from clear that we'd win especially if China were to join them, and they would be far less reticent than us to use nukes.
Even meaningful economic action would come at a huge cost to us, given their massive importance when it comes not only to gas but to things like wheat and corn as well.
To take them on militarily means WW3 and enormous death, destruction, poverty and misery. We'd get all that win or lose, and it's far from clear that we'd win especially if China were to join them, and they would be far less reticent than us to use nukes.
Even meaningful economic action would come at a huge cost to us, given their massive importance when it comes not only to gas but to things like wheat and corn as well.
wisemensaysteve
Striker
In his earlier address he threatened the West with what can only be a nuclear attack if we intervein
Sunderlandellight
Central Defender
The whole thing. He clearly wants to decapitate Ukraine and install his own men.
And what next? I'm sure if he doesn't consider Ukraine a proper country, then Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are a possible side dish for him.
I realize these are NATO countries and he is less likely to invade them die to the bugger risks of confrontation with NATO.
But who knows what is going on in inside the big lump in his head right now.
If you want an example of an intelligent lunatic, look no further than Vladimir Putin.
I assume this is (very bad) fishing. Not cool or clever mate.
Concordsafc
Midfield
That’s fair enough matey in general though it’s madness ive always been central sometimes leaning right but this is about lives and not what side we sit on it’s shameful if people are supporting putin on here.
Sunderlandellight
Central Defender
Given his recent record of backtracking, nobody should believe a single word he says.
Lunatic in charge of the nuclear asylum.
bahtat
Striker
Can't believe Johnson freezing 3 bank accounts didn't discourage Putin
I take it you think that Blocking the servicing of 70% of Russian defence contracts is not going to have any impact on Putin’s ability to keep equipping his forces
Lifted from an article in Guardian
“The sanctioned banks are Rossiya, IS Bank, General Bank, Promsvyazbank and the Black Sea Bank, Johnson said. Promsvyazbank is a top 10 Russian bank, which services 70% of state contracts signed by the Russian ministry of defence.”
billybobmackem2312
Striker
It feels like we are stuck between a rock & a hard place here. I doubt we'll get involved military wise, so I think our best bet is to hope Ukraine can defend themselves sufficiently.
Jgrainger
Midfield
Which is a disgrace!
No. Next step is to fix it. I even used the words ‘fix it’ in the last sentence of my post.
The difference is a boiler can be fixed without any risk of burning down the house. So your analogy doesn’t work. If risking burning down the house was the only way to fix a boiler, then your analogy would be more accurate. And I would take that risk and try and get the boiler fixed.
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