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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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pillars of hercules said:
What a lot of people don’t seem to consider is that much of the Ukraine is populated with Russian speakers. When you walk around Kiev it isn't Ukrainian you here people speak. Russia has in interest in that part of the world and we should acknowledge that in any talks.
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Isn’t that because the Russians banned it in schools in the past?

But nice to know we can interfere in Canadian politics now.
 

Visiting owl said:
As a side she also blamed America for the Russian girl who was found to have dodgy substances in her system last week at the winter Olympics!!

Her paranoia was off the scale.

She has offered to make me dinner if Russia invade within the next 7 days.
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How the fuck were they still allowed to compete in the winter olympics under the 'ROC' banner anyway? Not much of a sanction for years of systematic cheating.
 
pillars of hercules said:
What a lot of people don’t seem to consider is that much of the Ukraine is populated with Russian speakers. When you walk around Kiev it isn't Ukrainian you here people speak. Russia has in interest in that part of the world and we should acknowledge that in any talks.
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Really? Russia have already annexed most of the red areas.

Do we have 'an interest' in Ireland using the same logic?
PTID said:
What a load of shite being posted on this thread. What is true, is its about domination, but not by Russia but the West. The world was safer when there were 2 super powers of equal strength. Once the USSR was disbanded. the world has never been more dangerous with the Yanks ruling the roost. Obviously the re-emergence of Russia and the economic power of China spooks them, and they are looking for any excuse to either undermine them or go to war with them.

America in comparison to Russia has invaded or fought in hundreds of countries throughout its history, Britain is not far behind. If it wasn't for the Russian sacrifice, who lost more people than all the other allies put together, we would've lost WW2. Its the Yanks not the Russians who are the enemy of mankind. We in the west are desperate to stir up trouble over Ukraine, as we are shit scared one of the most important countries in the old Soviet Union, get all chummy with Russia again. So what if Russia has deployed troops on the Russian side of the Ukraine border, that is not a crime, the Yanks do it all the time. they have military bases all over the world, encircling countries like Russia and China. They have just built a naval base in Australia, what the fook for? Do China see that as a declaration of war? what if the Russians built a naval base in Cork? that would piss us off, but why not? when we build bases in other countries across the globe.
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MoreSouthAmericans said:
The Russians spent the majority of the 1930s trying to form alliances against the Nazi's with Britain and France which we refused. This included instructing national communist parties to support social democratic and Liberal parties against fascist ones. The Soviets were the only European power to supply any real material aid to the Spanish Republic in the civil war, which they only stopped in order not to upset Britain and France, who did nothing to stop Germany and Italy, also supplying the Chinese nationalists after Germany and Japan formed an alliance. Also the Soviets were the only country to offer assistance to the Czechoslovaks (the last democracy in Eastern Europe) against Germany. The Czechoslovaks refused after being asked to by the French (though Benes said he wouldn't have if he'd know about The British betrayal being planned for Munich and the subsequent betrayal by Poland and Hungary who happily carved up bits of the country for themselves).
Molotov-Ribbentrop was a necessity for the Soviets who firstly didn't think that the Western allies would do anything to stop the Germans invading Poland (he was right, we sat behind the Maginot line refusing to launch an offensive) and secondly worried that Germany would be able to use Poland for offensives into the Ukraine- ditto Finland and the Baltics (which the Germans were planning to do).
The Soviets saw the dangers of Hitler's Germany (and Japan) long before anyone else did or at least before anyone tried to do anything about it.
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The Russians could have bolstered their own defences without invading other countries, that's just dickish behaviour, let alone before considering what Stalin did to his own people I am sure you are going to entertain us all by also explaining that the slaughter of Polish officers around that time was also required for Russian security?
 
PTID said:
What a load of shite being posted on this thread. What is true, is its about domination, but not by Russia but the West. The world was safer when there were 2 super powers of equal strength. Once the USSR was disbanded. the world has never been more dangerous with the Yanks ruling the roost. Obviously the re-emergence of Russia and the economic power of China spooks them, and they are looking for any excuse to either undermine them or go to war with them.

America in comparison to Russia has invaded or fought in hundreds of countries throughout its history, Britain is not far behind. If it wasn't for the Russian sacrifice, who lost more people than all the other allies put together, we would've lost WW2. Its the Yanks not the Russians who are the enemy of mankind. We in the west are desperate to stir up trouble over Ukraine, as we are shit scared one of the most important countries in the old Soviet Union, get all chummy with Russia again. So what if Russia has deployed troops on the Russian side of the Ukraine border, that is not a crime, the Yanks do it all the time. they have military bases all over the world, encircling countries like Russia and China. They have just built a naval base in Australia, what the fook for? Do China see that as a declaration of war? what if the Russians built a naval base in Cork? that would piss us off, but why not? when we build bases in other countries across the globe.
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Refreshing post. I got shot down for this line of thinking...had a Russian gf, you have to know their mentality to understand them. The end of the cold war screwed everything, and most have been worse off since, even the middle classes with their government jobs. She was hot BTW.
 
MoreSouthAmericans said:
The Russians spent the majority of the 1930s trying to form alliances against the Nazi's with Britain and France which we refused. This included instructing national communist parties to support social democratic and Liberal parties against fascist ones. The Soviets were the only European power to supply any real material aid to the Spanish Republic in the civil war, which they only stopped in order not to upset Britain and France, who did nothing to stop Germany and Italy, also supplying the Chinese nationalists after Germany and Japan formed an alliance. Also the Soviets were the only country to offer assistance to the Czechoslovaks (the last democracy in Eastern Europe) against Germany. The Czechoslovaks refused after being asked to by the French (though Benes said he wouldn't have if he'd know about The British betrayal being planned for Munich and the subsequent betrayal by Poland and Hungary who happily carved up bits of the country for themselves).
Molotov-Ribbentrop was a necessity for the Soviets who firstly didn't think that the Western allies would do anything to stop the Germans invading Poland (he was right, we sat behind the Maginot line refusing to launch an offensive) and secondly worried that Germany would be able to use Poland for offensives into the Ukraine- ditto Finland and the Baltics (which the Germans were planning to do).
The Soviets saw the dangers of Hitler's Germany (and Japan) long before anyone else did or at least before anyone tried to do anything about it.
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The Soviets did nothing in Spain other than murder Trotskyists on Stalin's orders. Plenty of documented material on this.

They did want an alliance with UK and France but both were suspicious of Soviet motives. Arguably a mistake by the West but the Soviet annexation of the Baltic states and Winter war with Finland highlighted the Soviet Union as pure aggressors.
 
Sinbad Skullhead said:
Is it the 1970s and lets invade the USA they speak 100% english.
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Absolutely not my point. Canada & USA are better example. If, in 70s that Canada became aligned with the USSR at the time then yes I think USA would have gone in.

They went into Vietnam for a similar reason. To have that on their border with a simikarly cultured nation would have been unthinkable.
 
Gelan said:
Refreshing post. I got shot down for this line of thinking...had a Russian gf, you have to know their mentality to understand them. The end of the cold war screwed everything, and most have been worse off since, even the middle classes with their government jobs. She was hot BTW.
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Have you ever had a Nigerian GF?
 
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