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Striker
Imagine the reaction on here if Johnson had attempted this masterstroke.
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The Pep myth
- Thread starter chunkyshanhawk53
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Are you forgetting the players he has developed elsewhere?
Scunny Dan
Midfield
Johnson advised his protege Guardiola to do it.
Allardyce would have won the CL at least twice given the same chance imho
Georgewhitt
Winger
Stirling was "good potential" when he got his hands on him.
Now a world class player.
Same as when Cole went to Fergieland.
Good goal scorer when he went, excellent all round footballer after Sir Alex got him.
Definitely Maybe
Striker
Think it's a bit weak to say he's spent lots of money therefore should win the Champions League. No disputing he has spent money but there are a number of clubs with similar financial muscle/spend:
Juventus - Crippled themselves with an eye-watering wage bill (£400k per week on Aaron Ramsey for example) and have now fallen behind in the league
Barcelona - Well documented that they've spent hundreds of millions on transfers and wages
PSG - Have more money than City, spent gazillions on Neymar and others and chucked crazy wages at Messi, Ramos, Donnarumma etc on frees this summer
Chelsea - Spent £200m last summer
Man United - Can't remember the figures off the top of my head but iirc there was very little difference in fees paid over the last 5 years
For me, I can think of a couple of examples where one club has had so much more financial power than the rest (there will be more but just as examples) - Chelsea's first 5 years or so under Abramovic. The Real Madrid Galacticos. Man United in the 90s. Etc. You could argue City after the takeover, but by the time they were in a position to buy superstars, they were already competing with Chelsea, Barca, Real Madrid, PSG etc. I don't think they've ha significantly more spending power than the rest since Pep went there.
People go on about spending £50m on Kyle Walker but think nowt about Everton spending that on Richardson etc
Juventus - Crippled themselves with an eye-watering wage bill (£400k per week on Aaron Ramsey for example) and have now fallen behind in the league
Barcelona - Well documented that they've spent hundreds of millions on transfers and wages
PSG - Have more money than City, spent gazillions on Neymar and others and chucked crazy wages at Messi, Ramos, Donnarumma etc on frees this summer
Chelsea - Spent £200m last summer
Man United - Can't remember the figures off the top of my head but iirc there was very little difference in fees paid over the last 5 years
For me, I can think of a couple of examples where one club has had so much more financial power than the rest (there will be more but just as examples) - Chelsea's first 5 years or so under Abramovic. The Real Madrid Galacticos. Man United in the 90s. Etc. You could argue City after the takeover, but by the time they were in a position to buy superstars, they were already competing with Chelsea, Barca, Real Madrid, PSG etc. I don't think they've ha significantly more spending power than the rest since Pep went there.
People go on about spending £50m on Kyle Walker but think nowt about Everton spending that on Richardson etc
Scunny Dan
Midfield
Georgewhitt
Winger
Sam Alardicio
The Albanian
Winger
Aye but Madrid are an anomaly - they benchmark themselves against CL performance exclusively and set themselves up to give them the best chance of winning it, often to the detriment of other comps
Scunny Dan
Midfield
Cox Green Fc
Striker
Fantastic what hes acheived with city tbf. Theyll win champions league in a next few year imo
nah just a “myth” apparently
zebediah
Striker
The league is the measure, the CL is a cup competition so is not always won by the best team.
It's very glamorous, but in the case of Real Madrid, their streaky run in it just papered over the poor league return.
I don’t think it matters if it does, winning the Cl is a great achievement but it doesn’t indicate you’re the best team or manager in Europe, it’s cup football, which is why it’s so exciting
it’s also why Benitez could win it with biscan, Traore and baros playing, and di Matteo could win it with chelsea
the league is a much bigger indicator
spot on
Georgewhitt
Winger
Quote
"The CL is the cherry on the top.
The important thing is the cake."
Jamie Oliver 2021
"The CL is the cherry on the top.
The important thing is the cake."
Jamie Oliver 2021
SAFC11
Striker
Sent nearly a billion point as City manager, and generally his best players were Silva, augero, kompany and de bruyne, none of which he signed. Got a lot from Dias, walker and ederso signings, but most of his other signings have been solid but not outstanding (laporte was for a time the rest have had periods of being outstanding to ineffective)
Georgewhitt
Winger
You on the Scrumpy Jack mate?
Helvellyn
Full Back
Always likely to get a good game when you watch his teams play , but he does seem to over-think himself in big games. I remember Barcelona V Chelsea (Torres goal) where he went out essentially with no midfield. He has a case to answer that in big games he strays from the method which got him there & it hasn't worked out in big moments.
Rizla
Striker
Agree with that, he is a good player in his own right but not sure he fits their style. They were better when he was subbed.
