The Pep myth

[chunkyshanhawk53]

I’m sure I’ll get tons of abuse for this, so I’ll caveat in advance. He’s clearly a top coach. This is more a “is he as good as he thinks he is?” post

it’s now 10 years since he won the champions league. Despite having pretty much unlimited money at City and coaching Bayern, one of the biggest clubs on the planet

He got somewhat fortunate with Barca as he inherited arguably the best player ever in his prime

look at his City numbers. He’s been great domestically. But he should be when you look at what he’s bought. The transfer fees are from memory, so tell me I’m wrong

Ederson £35m (one of the highest fees ever at the time)
Walker £50m
Mendy £50m (even without the news he’s been crap)
Cancelo £40m+
Dias, Stones, Ake, Laporte at a combined £220m ish
Rodri £60m
De Bruyne £57m
Silva £35m
Jesus £27m
Mahrez £60m
Grealish £100m
Torres £25m

there will be more. Probably only one looks a shocker, but given the money surely he has to win more?

who has he sold at a profit? Sane?

who has he developed? Foden?

I’ll get pelters, but 10 years since a CL. With that money. He’s not the genius he thinks he is?

 

[Oli Wagkz]

Like you say, he’s a very good coach. He hasn’t exactly had it hard over his career mind, easy gigs everywhere he’s been.

 

[AC Mack]

Probably the best coach in the world in terms of innovation and new ideas.

Absolutely brilliant.

 

[deleted user 785]

He's absolutely brilliant. There aren't many sides can play the way city do.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Probably the best coach in the world in terms of innovation and new ideas.

Absolutely brilliant.

Agree with that. But in terms of bang for the buck?

 

[Scotty 1978]

Quality 2-1, I’m on the wrong thread

 

[Red]

Only thing I can fault him with is his failure not to have a world class centre forward.

 

[AC Mack]

Agree with that. But in terms of bang for the buck?

It's not his fault he's always been at the very top of the game. People say he has it easy but he has to compete against the best coaches and players in the world, too.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

It's not his fault he's always been at the very top of the game. People say he has it easy but he has to compete against the best coaches and players in the world, too.

Yeah he does. It’s more given the money and positions he has had, surely he should be delivering more in the CL?

 

[Arkle]

Agree with that. But in terms of bang for the buck?

He doesn't set/pay the fees. Also, it's a little early to judge Grealish (and Torres TBH).

 

[Paddy O'Dors]

£100m on Grealish was mental like.

 

[AC Mack]

Yeah he does. It’s more given the money and positions he has had, surely he should be delivering more in the CL?

It's a cup competition against the best sides in the world. There's a fair bit of fortune involved and the best team often don't win it.

 

[West_Winger]

He always sends his sides out to be defensive in the latter stages of it nowadays and I have no idea why.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

He doesn't set/pay the fees. Also, it's a little early to judge Grealish (and Torres TBH).

I know he doesn’t.

It's a cup competition against the best sides in the world. There's a fair bit of fortune involved and the best team often don't win it.

True enough. Zidane won 3 times in a row mind

 

[Arkle]

I know he doesn’t.

So, why focus on the fees? With the current Man City ownership, they're pretty much irrelevant anyway.

Mendy' as you say, has been crap and Pep made a tactical error not starting one of Fernandinho and Rodri in last season's Champions' League final. I think he/they will regret not having a striker this season as well.

 

[JL1985]

All the top clubs pay massive fees regardless of the manager. Solskjaer has spent a shit load since he’s been at Man Utd.

What Pep does almost guarantee is the league title and a cup each season.

The CL is difficult to win. He was regularly getting to the Semi finals with Bayern and reached the Final with city.

He’s a excellent manager.

 

[fredthefan]

I like him, they play good football

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

So, why focus on the fees? With the current Man City ownership, they're pretty much irrelevant anyway.

Mendy' as you say, has been crap and Pep made a tactical error not starting one of Fernandinho and Rodri in last season's Champions' League final. I think he/they will regret not having a striker this season as well.

More that he had “unlimited resources” and still hasn’t won the big one

 

[Arkle]

More that he had “unlimited resources” and still hasn’t won the big one

Yeah, I can't disagree with that. Ironically, it's often the English sides they've had issues with.

 

[HABA87]

He's no Simon Grayson.