Holidaying abroad this year

gegsongegsonlegs said:
The 2 week thing was intended so people didn’t have a mad scramble to get home like happened last year. Yes I think we all booked knowing the risks and many took precautions when booking but things like pcr tests may be non refundable .

the fact Portugal has only been active on a green list for three weeks makes me wonder why it was ever there if this is not a political decision..

The point you agreed with ( I think) is why have a list at all. Instead of moving the goalposts from the supposed irreversible lifting of restrictions. There will have been people flew to Portugal today who may not be able to isolate on return. How is that fair, if two weeks ago the government had said we are reviewing Portugal’s inclusion on the green list then you’re right people had a choice to make. But they didn’t..

as for the virus not giving a warning. I agree. But has any reason been mentioned as to why this decision was made? I looked at the numbers of cases from April 28th until yesterday. Cases up by <150 in a month. Isn’t that what everyone was expecting to happen as restrictions were eased??? There just seems no real reason for it to me.

yes we all knew the risks and we took them on info in the public domain. If you’re happy with a holiday in the uk then crack on, each to their own. Personally don’t want to pay double the price to spend a fortnight in the rain paying over the odds for stuff..

Be honest whether you’ve been a smarty pants or not, and booked something in this country, this is a political decision and it’s wrong..
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Fair enough. I'm not trying to be clever or owt. Sorry if my glibness was unintentionally smartarse. I realise I'm in a privileged position. No offence intended.
 


Jap Stammer said:
Nope.

They now have to quarantine for 10 days on return, despite the promise of a 2-week warning to prevent this very thing from happening again.

Also, their Day 2 testing kits to be used after returning are now obsolete as they'll now need a Day 2 and 8 testing kit.

Guess what? You can't buy a Day 8 test on its own - you can only buy a Day 2 on its own or a Day 2 and 8 as a package. Means they'll have to shell out for another set of tests on return and essentially write-off the cost of the original Day 2 test.

F@cking joke!
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So the blond blob thinks a negative before departure and a negative test two days later isnt enough.He's bonkers :lol:
 
George Kaplan said:
Fair enough. I'm not trying to be clever or owt. Sorry if my glibness was unintentionally smartarse. I realise I'm in a privileged position. No offence intended.
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None taken mate. Just pointing out that we can only go with the info we have. You ( and many others) decided not to bother and stay home or holiday here. We decided to do the opposite and book abroad based on info available.

wasn’t looking for a row or anything marra.
 
George Kaplan said:
I cannot for the life of me understand the point of a two week warning. Even if one was promised.

A virus doesn’t give a warning ...or heed one.

I agree, however, with your second point, but from a different perspective. Millions of us thought “... you know what? The situation is unpredictable. Regardless of what governments and scientists say, things can change quickly. I’ll take a holiday in the Uk if I can ...and I’ll book something that is refundable if at all possible. There’s a risk that if I go abroad I could, at worst, be infected or I could end up having a holiday cut short or a sudden requirement to quarantine .... whatever the government says and whatever the ‘list’ is”.

And we based this in 18 months ish of experience of these things. I would hope that anybody flying abroad for a holiday would realise the the situation is volatile and can change rapidly and booked with a full recognition that this could happen. I say again; regardless of what the government says.

The whole thing is utterly predictable. And it’ll happen again. Sad
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People going away in the last week for 2 weeks now have to isolate on return.
By giving a 2 week assurance that we won't change the colour meant people could go away knowing they wouldn't need to isolate on return
 
What I don’t understand is...

we know there will be more variant, they knew this 3 weeks ago when they allowed travel to reopen.

so why allow it to open in the first instance ? They knew our 21st target then also, did they not worry about mutations then or is has it just dawned on then.

really can’t understand blaming possible mutations on this chnage
 
If they think travel will jeopardise June 21 then what the fuck they gonna do after June 21? Variants are gonna be around forever. Just another failing in this sham of a government. Mind you the oppo ain't saying much either
 
spitfire said:
What is the actual point of the amber list? It should just be a straight green or red list. You should be able to either go or not for a holiday. The whole amber thing and testing just confuses the fuck out of everything and brings more and more ambiguity and uncertainty for people. It's ridiculous.
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Seems pretty clear.

"To prevent new COVID variants from entering the UK, you should not travel to amber or red list countries"
 
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arthursboy said:
My cynical head says it’s a way to keep people in the UK and spending money here instead of abroad, surely not eh ?
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Hardly when you look at all the other places on the green list. St Helena. Gibraltar. Brunei. Ascension Islands. Tristan de Cunha. Sandwich Islands. Singapore. Australia. South Georgia. New Zealand. Ok I don’t know where St Helena, Brunei, Ascension Islands, Tristan de Cunha and Sandwich Islands are but they sound like mint places. As for Falkland Islands, Iceland and Israel they aren’t so fancied. But I would imagine the rest are. It’s no biggie. Plenty to chose from.
 
ShieldsBlackCat2015 said:
Hardly when you look at all the other places on the green list. St Helena. Gibraltar. Brunei. Ascension Islands. Tristan de Cunha. Sandwich Islands. Singapore. Australia. South Georgia. New Zealand. Ok I don’t know where St Helena, Brunei, Ascension Islands, Tristan de Cunha and Sandwich Islands are but they sound like mint places. As for Falkland Islands, Iceland and Israel they aren’t so fancied. But I would imagine the rest are. It’s no biggie. Plenty to chose from.
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You know most of them are closed for tourism, it's not just a British gov decision
 
There's no doubt that we've been misled on this. Judging by the latest update the only way a country gets access to the green list is by being at zero covid or near enough to zero. It does seem like a clear signal that foreign travel is being cancelled.
 
Lambchops said:
You know most of them are closed for tourism, it's not just a British gov decision
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No. Why are they all still on the green list?

I see that Spain and some of the Islands of Greece could be added so it isn't all bad. Spain is my main destination of choice. I have dreamed since I met my lass of going to see the places she has.
 
ShieldsBlackCat2015 said:
No. Why are they all still on the green list?

I see that Spain and some of the Islands of Greece could be added so it isn't all bad. Spain is my main destination of choice. I have dreamed since I met my lass of going to see the places she has.
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After the latest round of travel list updates there's no way anything is going to be added.

At some point they need to allow for travel to see family. I'm not sure for how much longer they can keep families apart.
 

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