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CC :: Durham v Worcestershire

Bri said:
It looked a good team on paper before the season started and so it's proved on the pitch and deserved better results than actually occurred. Great win, well played.
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It's a shame we aren't playing league this season as this team would be promoted easy imo.

The only worry is strength in depth in bowling. If we had Salisbury playing for Wood and Coughlin for Carse we could have struggled for those ten wickets.
 

Blows your mind to think rushys career didnt start til he was what, 23?
could have easily had 3 more seasons under his belt and xx wickets more.
 
smoker said:
It's a shame we aren't playing league this season as this team would be promoted easy imo.

The only worry is strength in depth in bowling. If we had Salisbury playing for Wood and Coughlin for Carse we could have struggled for those ten wickets.
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Its fair comment. We should expect Carse to play but Woody is just a bonus.
 
The Rat said:
yeah it does mate

lads in private schools have the best facilities in the country and the time to hit ball after ball all day every day

if you go to a state school in a Durham pit village then you don’t

it’s about 100 times harder to make it as a cricketer if you don’t go to Public school

thought that would be obvious
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There are better facilities at public schools but you don't hit ball after ball every day. You play on average two matches per week of which the vast bulk of opposing sides and the side you are playing in are inferior to anyone who goes onto play county cricket (ie, the gulf in class between Foster when he was U11 is so vast already so they don't get as much as you think from public school cricket). Playing men's first team cricket when you are U14 or playing two ages above your age group in the county set up plus his own dedication had far more weight to his career. However, if there is an agenda against public schools due to misconceptions so be it
 
essex boy said:
There are better facilities at public schools but you don't hit ball after ball every day. You play on average two matches per week of which the vast bulk of opposing sides and the side you are playing in are inferior to anyone who goes onto play county cricket (ie, the gulf in class between Foster when he was U11 is so vast already so they don't get as much as you think from public school cricket). Playing men's first team cricket when you are U14 or playing two ages above your age group in the county set up plus his own dedication had far more weight to his career. However, if there is an agenda against public schools due to misconceptions so be it
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I think when Stoneman was picked for England he was the only batsman since Paul Collingwood to be selected who had his full education in a state school. Root did partly. Either the facilities in public schools do make a difference or there is snobbery in selection.
 
rentaghost said:
I think when Stoneman was picked for England he was the only batsman since Paul Collingwood to be selected who had his full education in a state school. Root did partly. Either the facilities in public schools do make a difference or there is snobbery in selection.
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Or if state schools don't play cricket then will multi talented sportsman not veer towards football, meaning by default counties will look towards public schools? Huge amounts of public school boys get put through county age group cricket, none with a chance of making it then get spat out at 16 by the counties. The county age group set up is to try and nourish 1 lad every couple of years who goes on to make it. I know Cook was playing at least two years above his age group at county level by 11 and scoring shed loads.
 
essex boy said:
There are better facilities at public schools but you don't hit ball after ball every day. You play on average two matches per week of which the vast bulk of opposing sides and the side you are playing in are inferior to anyone who goes onto play county cricket (ie, the gulf in class between Foster when he was U11 is so vast already so they don't get as much as you think from public school cricket). Playing men's first team cricket when you are U14 or playing two ages above your age group in the county set up plus his own dedication had far more weight to his career. However, if there is an agenda against public schools due to misconceptions so be it
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I don’t think it’s misconceptions though mate. Lads getting coached in school from ex pros have to be at an advantage to the state school lot. I had a great upbringing but my cricket coaching was an hour on a Sunday morning (amongst 50 other kids) with a club 2nd XI player. Then going up the nets every night with my mates and basically trying to suss it out for ourselves.

It’s an absolute credit to the system up here that our state school Durham side is as competitive as it is.
 
NorthCountryBoy said:
I don’t think it’s misconceptions though mate. Lads getting coached in school from ex pros have to be at an advantage to the state school lot. I had a great upbringing but my cricket coaching was an hour on a Sunday morning (amongst 50 other kids) with a club 2nd XI player. Then going up the nets every night with my mates and basically trying to suss it out for ourselves.

It’s an absolute credit to the system up here that our state school Durham side is as competitive as it is.
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I thought one of the players went to heaton

warmest place in noocazzle
Central heaton
 
rentaghost said:
I think when Stoneman was picked for England he was the only batsman since Paul Collingwood to be selected who had his full education in a state school. Root did partly. Either the facilities in public schools do make a difference or there is snobbery in selection.
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I was support officer for PE when the National Curriculum was first written 25 years ago and we heard this time after time from teachers in consultation (particularly re compulsory team games): state schools don't offer cricket due to the cost of equipment and coaching and low levels of participation (too much sitting around waiting to bat, making classes harder to control). If you're any good at it, you will apply for a sports scholarship at a private school, which is what Joe Root, Jofra Archer etc did. The NE club system offers an alternate to that route but, even then, if Colly didn't have family connections to SBCC you wonder if he'd have got the support he did.
 
Colly was fortunate as well that the Durham academy came into place when he did. His brother was a cracking player but a couple of years older and missed out. Rocky and Borthwicks dads were also huge cricketing personalities in the area which meant they played cricket from being very young and had parents that were going to make sure they stuck with it and were given opportunities.
 
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