Any Other School Staff Going On Strike?

[Brian Griffin]

You have no evidence of that except a 3 month old study when Covid cases were very low, now Sage are saying there is a risk. shop workers and factory workers have much better protection. Teachers are pretty much the only group the Government have admitted it’s nigh on impossible to put in place restrictions, particularly in primary

Show me evidence that teachers are more at risk and more importantly more at risk with this new strain.

 

[Hansel]

And this is from just november:

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And I bet everyone of those testing positive had also visited their own homes as well. I'd wager a high percentage have kids of school age.

 

[sketchy]

Show me evidence that teachers are more at risk and more importantly more at risk with this new strain.

They can't social distance, don't wear masks, multiple households in close contact. Also the highest infection rate is in secondary then primary children.

 

[Gaggoears]

Yet you've spouted shite on here about how things are being blown out of proportion and we should be opening up society. All of a sudden it's woe is me again.

Seems he has a short memory, he is not alone though.

 

[Hansel]

More importantly, there’s no evidence that this mutation is any more deadly.

High transmission rates drive mutations. This one might not result in increased morbidity/mortality but do we want to find out if the next one does?

 

[Botchie]

Some cracking Johnson quotes from July.

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[MonkeyLove]

Show me evidence that teachers are more at risk and more importantly more at risk with this new strain.

Everything on this thread is bollocks. Random people making assessments about safety in schools compared to supermarkets etc... without data or expertise.

The only thing worth looking at is that SAGE told the government on the 22nd December to close schools due to the risk. They do have the data and expertise so that’s good enough for me

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Utter shite leadership again by Boris. He has had f***ing weeks to sort this out; yet only hours before the kids go back, there is total confusion.

 

[Botchie]

Seems he has a short memory, he is not alone though.

The "what about me" needs to stop for a couple of months while someone with a pair of bollocks sorts this out. I'm sick of seeing why can't I go for a pint, but Mary can still go to church. Unfortunately the problem is that the two things in my first sentence will never happen.

 

[BrumBlue]

Everything on this thread is bollocks. Random people making assessments about safety in schools compared to supermarkets etc... without data or expertise.

The only thing worth looking at is that SAGE told the government on the 22nd December to close schools due to the risk. They do have the data and expertise so that’s good enough for me

What have SAGE said about supermarkets?

Also bare in mind that should schools shut, a lot of supermarket workers with kids cannot continue to work. As was the case the first time. Same for NHS staff.

Having less staff in food & health places right now won't be great. It's not as simple as it sounds.

The "what about me" needs to stop for a couple of months while someone with a pair of bollocks sorts this out. I'm sick of seeing why can't I go for a pint, but Mary can still go to church. Unfortunately the problem is that the two things in my first sentence will never happen.

What's your current job?

 

[sketchy]

What have SAGE said about supermarkets?

Also bare in mind that should schools shut, a lot of supermarket workers with kids cannot continue to work. As was the case the first time. Same for NHS staff.

Having less staff in food & health places right now won't be great. It's not as simple as it sounds.


What's your current job?

Schools will and have remained open for key workers.

 

[Botchie]

What have SAGE said about supermarkets?

Also bare in mind that should schools shut, a lot of supermarket workers with kids cannot continue to work. As was the case the first time. Same for NHS staff.

Having less staff in food & health places right now won't be great. It's not as simple as it sounds.

Supermarket staff are key workers, as they were in the first wave. Their kids will be able to go to school, just like they did in the first wave. That's because schools won't shut, just like they didn't in the first wave.

 

[sketchy]

Supermarket staff are key workers, as they were in the first wave. Their kids will be able to go to school, just like they did in the first wave. That's because schools won't shut, just like they didn't in the first wave.

10 months on and this still has to be explained. To a supermarket worker.

 

[lawe toppa]

Imagine if all key workers refused to go to work tomorrow I.e doctors and nurses and police and supermarkets to name but a few there would be hell on.
My daughters school is closed tomorrow not even open for key workers.
There was a time earlier last year when it felt like the country united now it's just a complete utter mess and people arguing left right and centre

 

[Botchie]

10 months on and this still has to be explained. To a supermarket worker.

He's a WUM marra. I thought thought months ago. Probably another one of the characters from here on one of their alternative accounts.

 

[Don'tListenToTheHat]

I think stepping away from this argument between who has the harder job right now you can see why teachers feel confused and betrayed. The tier system isn’t equal if primaries in London are telling kids to go in whilst in the north and other places in the Uk in the same tier are told everything is fine. It’s these inconsistencies and other things that are forcing teachers hands.

I know people from my work place will be teaching from home tomorrow if they’re not feeling comfortable with being in and that’s actually more work than going in and teaching in person. Teachers (the majority) aren’t trying to avoid work, they just want a safe working environment. How has government policy inspired any confidence in their safety?

 

[Brian Griffin]

The only thing worth looking at is that SAGE told the government on the 22nd December to close schools due to the risk. They do have the data and expertise so that’s good enough for me

Here is the exact quote from SAGE:

It is highly unlikely that measures with stringency and adherence in line with the measures in England in November (i.e. with schools open) would be sufficient to maintain R below 1 in the presence of the new variant. R would be lower with schools closed, with closure of secondary schools likely to have a greater effect than closure of primary schools. It remains difficult to distinguish where transmission between children takes place, and it is important to consider contacts made outside of schools.

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They didn't say anything like "close schools due to the risk"

 

[Don'tListenToTheHat]

Managed to muck up my point about London and the north but hopefully you get my drift...

 

[MonkeyLove]

This also won’t be all people refusing to work.

Look through this and the other threads and there are tons of examples of whole year groups off or isolating. Someone mentioned earlier about widespread teacher illness and having to close classes.

Its a bit irrelevant what they do because if you send them back and it carries on like it is they will grind to a halt anyway. My sisters school have been hit by all manner of bubbles constantly being isolated and staff absences, and that was before the new strain or cases anything like now

 

[Brian Griffin]

Utter shite leadership again by Boris. He has had f***ing weeks to sort this out; yet only hours before the kids go back, there is total confusion.

The Government are not confusing anything - they have told certain years groups they are starting later, schools in certain areas to close and everybody else to remain open.

The only people looking to confuse it are the Unions and LAs by not doing as described above - they obviously know better but cannot show any scientific data to back it up.