Any Other School Staff Going On Strike?

[Lexingtongue]

Can't shut supermarkets mate. Us supermarket workers have been deemed an acceptable sacrifice whilst everything else is too dangerous. For less pay than 90% of proffesions aswell.

I'm a teacher and I'll openly say I think supermarket workers have been unsung heroes throughout this pandemic. There's no reason at all why we should be pitted against each other, IMHO.

 

[MonkeyLove]

To those saying why should teachers be prioritised for vaccination the reason is quite straightforward. They are the only profession expected to work without any mitigation against this virus. No social distancing, no masks, no perspex panels etc. If you go into a supermarket the lass behind the till is almost certain to be sat behind a screen. Most of the customers she deals with will be in contact with her for only a few minutes and will be wearing a mask. Compare that to a teacher sat in a classroom with no distancing for hours on end or corridors which are absolutely rammed.

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A lot of Trusts and GPs have vaccinated their vaccinators first to ensure they are protected. Has she not had hers yet?

Spot on. Was trying to point this out to people earlier.

Teachers, particularly primary, are one of the most exposed groups. Even the government have admitted distancing is impossible and PPE for most schools banned. You would struggle to name a more at risk sector so shop staff etc are simply not comparable

 

[Botchie]

If there has been no ballot, whatever anyones feelings, and they are understandably running high, going on strike, without a ballot is dangerous ground, employment rights wise

It's not a strike, Janey. Unless I have missed something? The unions have stressed it really clearly that they're not asking anyone to strike and everyone is available to work remotely from home or with the groups of kids specified.

 

[Don'tListenToTheHat]

I'm a teacher and I'll openly say I think supermarket workers have been unsung heroes throughout this pandemic. There's no reason at all why we should be pitted against each other, IMHO.

I agree. I don’t know why we’d want to argue amongst ourselves. It’s almost like that’s what they want...

 

[Botchie]

Can't shut supermarkets mate. Us supermarket workers have been deemed an acceptable sacrifice whilst everything else is too dangerous. For less pay than 90% of proffesions aswell.

Yet you've spouted shite on here about how things are being blown out of proportion and we should be opening up society. All of a sudden it's woe is me again.

 

[Old Timer]

Why not if it helps

Because the time involved is illogical, as soon as you get them in you start to send them home.

 

[superdougle]

Because the time involved is illogical, as soon as you get them in you start to send them home.

Could you not extend the school day? For example year one starts at 8:30 finishes at 2:30 year two at 9-3 and so on

 

[Brian Griffin]

Spot on. Was trying to point this out to people earlier.

Teachers, particularly primary, are one of the most exposed groups. Even the government have admitted distancing is impossible and PPE for most schools banned. You would struggle to name a more at risk sector so shop staff etc are simply not comparable

ONS say teachers are at no worse risk than any other profession

 

[BrumBlue]

Yet you've spouted shite on here about how things are being blown out of proportion and we should be opening up society. All of a sudden it's woe is me again.

No woe is me. I carry on working like everyone else who works in them. Obviously there is risk but not everything can shut and not everyone can sit in safety. That's my point, why is it okay for us too work but too dangerous for others? Doesn't feel much like 'were all in it together'. And this is from just november:

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[janey]

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It's not a strike, Janey. Unless I have missed something? The unions have stressed it really clearly that they're not asking anyone to strike and everyone is available to work remotely from home or with the groups of kids specified.

I know it’s not a strike, Im just worried people don’t turn up for work, thinking it is and then get penalised x.

 

[Nobby]

No woe is me. I carry on working like everyone else who works in them. Obviously there is risk but not everything can shut and not everyone can sit in safety. That's my point, why is it okay for us too work but too dangerous for others? Doesn't feel much like 'were all in it together'. And this is from just november:

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Aye cos people are going to admit they have been to visit people they shouldn't have or doing things they shouldn't when you can just say they've been to Asda

 

[PTR]

I'm not sending my daughter, she's too worried. I'll send her when they can all go back.

I'm seriously thinking of asking HR to put me on furlough, and teaching her myself. The missus is likely to get a request to be a vaccinator before long, so she'll be going full time on that. 6 year old can't look after herself, and key-working schooling wasn't really schooling last time round (they didn't do the same work that the teachers were setting them!), and childcare means no schooling at all.

 

[MonkeyLove]

ONS say teachers are at no worse risk than any other profession

That’s wrong or at least outdated. That study was from September to mid October before the 2nd wave hit and the new mutation that scientists have confirmed is becoming more rife in younger children. Sage themselves are now suggesting the government need to close schools as the dynamic has changed

 

[bowers2]

Easy solution.
close the schools for six weeks, have them open in the summer.
should have been an mp.

teachers would probably moan at that too Though.

 

[Botchie]

No woe is me. I carry on working like everyone else who works in them. Obviously there is risk but not everything can shut and not everyone can sit in safety. That's my point, why is it okay for us too work but too dangerous for others? Doesn't feel much like 'were all in it together'. And this is from just november:

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If you don't think it's safe to go to work then you have the same right as everyone else to say so. This isn't a new piece of legislation it is part of an act from the 70s. The Prime minister even stood in front of the whole country in August and advised people who felt unsafe to challenge their employer.

 

[Brian Griffin]

That’s wrong or at least outdated. That study was from September to mid October before the 2nd wave hit and the new mutation that scientists have confirmed is becoming more rife in younger children. Sage themselves are now suggesting the government need to close schools as the dynamic has changed

There’s no evidence of teachers suffering more. Shop workers, factory workers could all say the same.

More importantly, there’s no evidence that this mutation is any more deadly.

 

[Botchie]

I know it’s not a strike, Im just worried people don’t turn up for work, thinking it is and then get penalised x.

Ah right. My apologies

 

[bowers2]

Can't shut supermarkets mate. Us supermarket workers have been deemed an acceptable sacrifice whilst everything else is too dangerous. For less pay than 90% of proffesions aswell.

this is a fair point. There are many who fall in this bracket unfortunately. I contacted COVID at my place of work. There are care workers, child care workers, prison staff And many other professions that have to plod on.

 

[MonkeyLove]

There’s no evidence of teachers suffering more. Shop workers, factory workers could all say the same.

More importantly, there’s no evidence that this mutation is any more deadly.

You have no evidence of that except a 3 month old study when Covid cases were very low, now Sage are saying there is a risk. shop workers and factory workers have much better protection. Teachers are pretty much the only group the Government have admitted it’s nigh on impossible to put in place restrictions, particularly in primary

 

[janey]

No woe is me. I carry on working like everyone else who works in them. Obviously there is risk but not everything can shut and not everyone can sit in safety. That's my point, why is it okay for us too work but too dangerous for others? Doesn't feel much like 'were all in it together'. And this is from just november:

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I’ve worked too, many have, i don’t need me or anyone else working to be the justification for as to why, oh we did it so it’s okay for teachers.
But I don’t recall another working environment where teachers and children are stuck in a classroom, for a long period of time, with kids snotting and coughing.