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Any Other School Staff Going On Strike?

Seems some schools are opening some are not. I’m talking primary schools in Hartlepool. Forgive me for thinking that if these teachers were not getting full wages a lot would not be so keen to down tools.
It’s not as if there has been an abundance of teachers getting the virus.

Really? Tell that to my wife, her colleagues, the 13 x 4/5 year olds who all have confirmed cases from their one bubble of 64 kids. Also another 4 of the bubbles in the schools that have closed at different times with kids and staff confirmed cases.
They are also not downing tools, they are stating that they will provide online learning whilst retaining site provision for key workers children and educational needs children for the next 2 weeks.
Don’t think so.

You are very wrong
 

What about bus taxi train drivers people who work on productions lines warehouses, supermarket workers, do they just not go to work??
They aren’t enclosed in a classroom for hours with 30 young children who have no concept of social distancing.
That’s not to minimise the risk to them, I and many others face risks everyday but they can be better managed than being in a class full of 5/6 year olds.
 
Hand sanitizer kills the virus but only works for seconds afterwards. All it needs is a careless touch of the face and you could be in trouble. So sanitiser doesn't mitigate the virus and neither does a mask. You touch your eyes wearing a mask and again you're at risk.
Heard a lad in the doctors the other week saying he touched his eyes, then put sanitiser on his hands, then touched his balls when he was at the toilet and forgot to wash his hands, ended up touching his sandwich when he had lunch and wasn’t very well after.
 
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The way we understood it when they went back in the summer was that all classes would be kept in their own bubble with no mixing.

However, my son's school which has 90 kids in the same year (3 classes of 30) have been mixing with the whole 90 every break and lunch time. A 'bubble' of 90 doesn't seem particularly pro-active.
 
not closing the schools simply gives this feckless lot in charge too many problems they simply don't know the answers to, or can't be arsed to deal with
 
The way we understood it when they went back in the summer was that all classes would be kept in their own bubble with no mixing.

However, my son's school which has 90 kids in the same year (3 classes of 30) have been mixing with the whole 90 every break and lunch time. A 'bubble' of 90 doesn't seem particularly pro-active.
Our school keep the year groups apart on breaks, but breakfast club is in the same room for all year groups.
 
The way we understood it when they went back in the summer was that all classes would be kept in their own bubble with no mixing.

However, my son's school which has 90 kids in the same year (3 classes of 30) have been mixing with the whole 90 every break and lunch time. A 'bubble' of 90 doesn't seem particularly pro-active.

unless you'd rather they didn't get out of the classroom from 9-3 then it is absolutely impossible to keep to bubbles at all times. We've got 12 groups in our school (quite a low number) and even we couldn't do that. 12 breaks and 12 seperate lunchtimes? This was made abundently clear over the summer.

If the aim is no mixing at all, we simply can't accomodate the numbers we'd need to and therefore the solution is remote learning!
 
They aren’t enclosed in a classroom for hours with 30 young children who have no concept of social distancing.
That’s not to minimise the risk to them, I and many others face risks everyday but they can be better managed than being in a class full of 5/6 year olds.
Just enclosed in buses trains and work places, with more than 30 people, I know that the school
My children go to still have all the children playing out at play time at the same time, let them start and end school at the same time. I understand the implications and the most vulnerable be protected in all walks of life, and should be shielded but the fit and healthy teachers should be at school.
 
unless you'd rather they didn't get out of the classroom from 9-3 then it is absolutely impossible to keep to bubbles at all times. We've got 12 groups in our school (quite a low number) and even we couldn't do that. 12 breaks and 12 seperate lunchtimes? This was made abundently clear over the summer.

If the aim is no mixing at all, we simply can't accomodate the numbers we'd need to and therefore the solution is remote learning!

I worded it wrong. It was more a swipe at the government for putting schools in such a position. It is impossible to implement, especially for primary schools. I am from a family of teachers so have nothing but respect for them.
 
Heard a lad in the doctors the other week saying he touched his eyes, then put sanitiser on his hands, then touched his balls when he was at the toilet and forgot to wash his hands, ended up touching his sandwich when he had lunch and wasn’t very well after.
We should tell boys to stop touching their balls. Good luck with that. :lol:
My wife's school they only give the chemical based sanitiser to the kids. The staff get the alcohol based stuff though. Probably because the foaming water and chemical based hasn't been tested on this virus. But they can't give the kids alcohol.
 
I can and I have seen it in several schools.

The other part of this is the mixing at the school gates and on the way to and from school, this produces an easy way for the virus to spread.
Surely the school should put measures in place to prevent mixing at the gates, I’m more than certain if someone wanted to wear protective equipment to preserve their well being, there would have been no objection.
 
It makes you wonder how anybody is catching it. I'll stop cleaning my hands then now there's no risk.
Does it? It makes me wonder how many people don't understand basic principles of transmission.
Every face to face interaction is a risk.
Everything you touch is a risk.

Risks are reduced by keeping interaction to smaller groups, at greater distance, with masks to reduce dispersal, mixing outdoors or in larger areas to increase dilution of the viral load and cleaning surfaces and hands. It's simple but it's been an absolute failure of the government to pass this over in a consistent manner.
Nothing is perfect but that's the definition of risk mitigation, reducing the chance of an adverse event happening.
 
The way we understood it when they went back in the summer was that all classes would be kept in their own bubble with no mixing.

However, my son's school which has 90 kids in the same year (3 classes of 30) have been mixing with the whole 90 every break and lunch time. A 'bubble' of 90 doesn't seem particularly pro-active.

my kids school have kept years apart at all times other than school busses (which they can’t really control). It may have stopped spread amongst year groups, but they’ve had full years isolating on 6 or 7 occasions now, plus god knows how many isolating due to being in contact with someone positive.

add to that the numbers of teachers & staff either isolating or positive, it just isn’t workable currently imo
 
apologies. I'm a tad tetchy as I sit preparing to return to the covid petri dish tomorrow. :lol:

No need to apologise, hope all goes well.

I've just come upstairs as the Mrs is downstairs getting angrier and angrier that the school's aren't closed and I'm getting the brunt of it. 😂
 
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