Anti mask demonstrations - Trafalgar Square

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Frijj said:
To be fair, the numerator and denominator are uneven in regards to data quality

the reported number of deaths will be considerably closer to the true number of deaths, than reported cases are to true cases.

I’m sure an estimated 4m in the UK have had COVID, making the case fatality rate more like 1%
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What have they based the estimated cases on? Scaled up positive tests?
 


Dave Herbal said:
What have they based the estimated cases on? Scaled up positive tests?
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They’ve done both antibody tests on blood donors and the ONS have been doing COVID surveys on representative samples of people then scaling up.

There’s a few uni epidemiology units doing mathematical modelling of how many people they think have had it and I think at most they’re coming back at about 10%, so higher than the ONS but the evidence so far is that less than 15% of people have had it...
 
As others have said, 1 in 20 chance of dying from this horrible shit once the NHS is at capacity.

Yet idiots still want to take a gamble with their lives.

The sad thing is most of those gambling will be absolutely fine, others definitely won’t.
 
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Harry Angstrom said:
Just do a bit of research and stop posting ridiculous scare stories. Some idiots might believe you.
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It’s not ridiculous, it’s the stated numbers.

If there is any hard evidence that more had had it, post it. All as I can find is speculation.
scott934 said:
Seems a fairly logical conclusion considering testing wasn't so readily available during the first big rise in cases, and people with symptoms were just being told to isolate.
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These are world wide figures, including China and Iran where the speculation is that the deaths have been understated.
 
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Hep said:
Check your maths, the mortality rate is 4.3%.

933,423 deaths from 21,299,021 cases.

Therefore they'd have a 95.7% survival rate, or about a 1 in 20 chance of dying.
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Does that include the number of people who carried the virus asymptomatically but died from multiple other causes?
scott934 said:
Seems a fairly logical conclusion considering testing wasn't so readily available during the first big rise in cases, and people with symptoms were just being told to isolate.
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Nope. Apparently you need evidence to prove that apart from those who tested positive for covid, nobody else has had it. Definitely a reasonable assumption.
lurker said:
As others have said, 1 in 20 chance of dying from this horrible shit once the NHS is at capacity.
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Unbelievable. Where the fck do you get that figure from?
 
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Hep said:
It’s not ridiculous, it’s the stated numbers.

If there is any hard evidence that more had had it, post it. All as I can find is speculation.
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www.cebm.net

Estimating the infection fatality ratio in England - The Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine

Daniel Howdon, Jason Oke, Carl Heneghan Summary We recently presented an estimate of recent declining trends in the case fatality
www.cebm.net www.cebm.net

A quick google. You are out by a factor of 10 according to these people.

Simple deduction from what has happened in last six months would make it obvious your inference was naive in the extreme.
 
Hep said:
It’s not ridiculous, it’s the stated numbers.

If there is any hard evidence that more had had it, post it. All as I can find is speculation.

These are world wide figures, including China and Iran where the speculation is that the deaths have been understated.
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World wide numbers are even less applicable, different countries have different testing capabilities, different lifestyles, different healthcare programs and different levels of reporting.
 
I think as a society we see people acting like cocks and sometimes copy them.

It was them absolute loons in America who started off this Anti Mask shite. They instead decideded to get Buying f***ing thousands of Rifles to protect themselves.

Most british people were shaking their heads but a loud minority have obviously latched on. Clowns.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
www.cebm.net

Estimating the infection fatality ratio in England - The Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine

Daniel Howdon, Jason Oke, Carl Heneghan Summary We recently presented an estimate of recent declining trends in the case fatality
www.cebm.net www.cebm.net

A quick google. You are out by a factor of 10 according to these people.

Simple deduction from what has happened in last six months would make it obvious your inference was naive in the extreme.
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That would equate to 11 million people having had the virus or 17% of the population. Around 1 in 6.
 
Mackem DJ said:
I think as a society we see people acting like cocks and sometimes copy them.

It was them absolute loons in America who started off this Anti Mask shite. They instead decideded to get Buying f***ing thousands of Rifles to protect themselves.

Most british people were shaking their heads but a loud minority have obviously latched on. Clowns.
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Honestly worried, Noel Gallagher on tonight saying he’s not going to wear a mask.

I worry people may copy him.
sambantam82 said:
Does that include the number of people who carried the virus asymptomatically but died from multiple other causes?


Nope. Apparently you need evidence to prove that apart from those who tested positive for covid, nobody else has had it. Definitely a reasonable assumption.


Unbelievable. Where the fck do you get that figure from?
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50,000 dead people mate sadly
 
lurker said:
Honestly mate if you want to play little games, please go and do it somewhere else.
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Its pretty important though isn't it. You can call them games but if you want to throw the 50000 number at me then at least have a clue what it means.
 
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