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UK to impose sanctions on Saudi Arabia

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Monty Pigeon said:
Surely the final nail in the coffin if the Saudis were, for instance, trying to buy a Premier League club.

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I May be incorrect but I thought that these “independent” British imposed sanctions were to be targeted at individuals, or groups of individuals, rather than entire Countries?
 
Carrick18 said:
The takeover goes through if they admit a degree fo responsibility and fix it. If they don't it'll drag on and on. The Premier League knows they've got them over a barrel and Saudi are desperately trying to diversify revenue streams.
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The problem here is, if the Saudi’s admit any responsibility for the piracy (which it’ll be difficult not to), they then open themselves up to compensation claims from Qatar, and I can’t see them being willing to pay any money to Qatar.
 
Hoyus Ahammerower said:
I May be incorrect but I thought that these “independent” British imposed sanctions were to be targeted at individuals, or groups of individuals, rather than entire Countries?
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They're individuals within a regime. Other individuals within that same regime are involved in the takeover. The question for the Premier League is the extent to which they will apply collective responsibility on those individuals.

Either way, it'll probably end up in the courts, and either way there'll be millions of Gulf petrodollars thrown at the case, either from Saudi or Qatar.
 
Carrick18 said:
They're targetting individuals. It's wildly different, and a bit like the Saudi's claims it wasn't them helping beoutQ, but them darn 'rogue agents'.

The takeover goes through if they admit a degree fo responsibility and fix it. If they don't it'll drag on and on. The Premier League knows they've got them over a barrel and Saudi are desperately trying to diversify revenue streams.
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This, or any other like it- but particularly with the Saudis, is not about revenue streams, or making money.

They could easily burn through £1/2 bn or more just buying that club and spending what most say is required on the ground and training facilities. For a provincial football club. That's before the countless millions required to hire players who will cost twice what they should cost and who will want absurd deals to come.

They will never make money and that is not the intent. It is purely an attempt to put some make up on. To get the West to look on them as if they are somehow more or less people with the same outlook as us.

They are not, and have openly said so in the past making no secret for their contempt for the West in general.

Oil is still a giant commodity, but it's price has a ceiling now which is not high enough for the Saudis needs, and for the first time, very big players and governments are beginning to escape it's influence. This movement will increase until it eventually leaves oil dependent states needing friends. Especially when they start fighting each other, an inevitability given the utter loathing between the sects of islam.

That's what this is about. They are not interested in football, the North East or a profit from the game. Their money will be made elsewhere. They want to store up associations so that when the need arises they might be seen as embedded into Western society. For this they need useful idiots, and football supporters are the perfect fit.

If it was us, I can easily say I would never consider going again.
 
Mr B said:
The problem here is, if the Saudi’s admit any responsibility for the piracy (which it’ll be difficult not to), they then open themselves up to compensation claims from Qatar, and I can’t see them being willing to pay any money to Qatar.
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It depends what you take blame for. That French court case indicates they were guilty of it occurring on Saudi land, but not much else.

rowley2 said:
This, or any other like it- but particularly with the Saudis, is not about revenue streams, or making money.

They could easily burn through £1/2 bn or more just buying that club and spending what most say is required on the ground and training facilities. For a provincial football club. That's before the countless millions required to hire players who will cost twice what they should cost and who will want absurd deals to come.

They will never make money and that is not the intent. It is purely an attempt to put some make up on. To get the West to look on them as if they are somehow more or less people with the same outlook as us.

They are not, and have openly said so in the past making no secret for their contempt for the West in general.

Oil is still a giant commodity, but it's price has a ceiling now which is not high enough for the Saudis needs, and for the first time, very big players and governments are beginning to escape it's influence. This movement will increase until it eventually leaves oil dependent states needing friends. Especially when they start fighting each other, an inevitability given the utter loathing between the sects of islam.

That's what this is about. They are not interested in football, the North East or a profit from the game. Their money will be made elsewhere. They want to store up associations so that when the need arises they might be seen as embedded into Western society. For this they need useful idiots, and football supporters are the perfect fit.

If it was us, I can easily say I would never consider going again.
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Well, yes and no. My point was more that part of that diversification is taking up a foot hold in Western society and normalising their presence. You do that by owning a football club and using it to shill your other interests. It allows you to put forth a very carefully curated and 2D image to a large consumer base.
 
IMO this just means that people working with/for the sanctioned will make more money from backhanders cos it’ll cost more to get around the rules. Like thatchers husband & oil companies with apartheid South Africa and other examples I can’t be arsed to think about now.
 
I'm hoping they get knocked back. I'd rather we went bust and reformed as a fans consortium club or something of that nature, than have the Saudi money. Barbarous regime and it will be a shameful day if they have anything to do with us. The BBC will be showing wankers with tea towels and sandals dancing about and claiming we're all delighted. We're not like, there's loads of us against it.
 
They wont do dick. Between the saudis, china and Russia theyve got shit on everyone

meanwhile caught out politicians in those countries seem to dissappear
 
Mary Hinge said:
DOES BERB KNAA? WHERE'S BERB?
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Knar doesnt knaaaar about mags only Sunlun
Professor Yaffle said:
I'm hoping they get knocked back. I'd rather we went bust and reformed as a fans consortium club or something of that nature, than have the Saudi money. Barbarous regime and it will be a shameful day if they have anything to do with us. The BBC will be showing wankers with tea towels and sandals dancing about and claiming we're all delighted. We're not like, there's loads of us against it.
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Hoy bisto breath speak for yourself no true Sunlan lad would want us to go bust no matter what the mags do!
 
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Professor Yaffle said:
I'm hoping they get knocked back. I'd rather we went bust and reformed as a fans consortium club or something of that nature, than have the Saudi money. Barbarous regime and it will be a shameful day if they have anything to do with us. The BBC will be showing wankers with tea towels and sandals dancing about and claiming we're all delighted. We're not like, there's loads of us against it.
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Petty that gobshite mp doesn't share your moral fibre mate.

Local ownership of football with homegrown players from our own academy. Wish safc could do that, shouldn't even be too difficult now if a group of folks like John Hays, Irene Lucas, Tombola fellas and a few others pulled together and persuaded the current set of bastards to fuck off.
 
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rowley2 said:
This, or any other like it- but particularly with the Saudis, is not about revenue streams, or making money.

They could easily burn through £1/2 bn or more just buying that club and spending what most say is required on the ground and training facilities. For a provincial football club. That's before the countless millions required to hire players who will cost twice what they should cost and who will want absurd deals to come.

They will never make money and that is not the intent. It is purely an attempt to put some make up on. To get the West to look on them as if they are somehow more or less people with the same outlook as us.

They are not, and have openly said so in the past making no secret for their contempt for the West in general.

Oil is still a giant commodity, but it's price has a ceiling now which is not high enough for the Saudis needs, and for the first time, very big players and governments are beginning to escape it's influence. This movement will increase until it eventually leaves oil dependent states needing friends. Especially when they start fighting each other, an inevitability given the utter loathing between the sects of islam.

That's what this is about. They are not interested in football, the North East or a profit from the game. Their money will be made elsewhere. They want to store up associations so that when the need arises they might be seen as embedded into Western society. For this they need useful idiots, and football supporters are the perfect fit.

If it was us, I can easily say I would never consider going again.
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This!
 
Professor Yaffle said:
I'm hoping they get knocked back. I'd rather we went bust and reformed as a fans consortium club or something of that nature, than have the Saudi money. Barbarous regime and it will be a shameful day if they have anything to do with us. The BBC will be showing wankers with tea towels and sandals dancing about and claiming we're all delighted. We're not like, there's loads of us against it.
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But would you rather have Mike Ashley?
 
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